RIP Archbishop Sambi
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(07-27-2011, 11:46 PM)Servire Deo Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 11:41 PM)TeaGuyTom Wrote: The man that helped bring us a more conservative crop of American Bishops during B16's pontificate apparently got recalled by a higher authority than the Vicar of Christ. He died at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore after becoming unresponsive from lung surgery complications more than a week ago.
http://whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com/...-boss.html
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"Conservative" means preserving the Vatican II counter-church.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

May God have mercy on your soul. If you are this judgmental in real life, you'll certainly need it!!
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#32
(07-28-2011, 07:36 PM)Servire Deo Wrote:
(07-28-2011, 07:27 PM)WhollyRoaminCatholic Wrote:
(07-28-2011, 05:58 PM)Servire Deo Wrote:
(07-28-2011, 05:56 PM)Baskerville Wrote:
(07-28-2011, 05:18 PM)dan hunter Wrote: All the more reason to pray for Archbishop Sambi's soul.

Exactly. These Bozo NO prelates are far more need of our prayers then a trad who has the faith.

Yeah, but he's dead.

Damn, man.  You really suck at this "Catholic" thing.

Ever heard of "Purgatory"?

Your ignorance is betraying your stupidity.

He's dead and presumed damned. Where else are ipso facto excommunicants presumed to be?

I know about Purgatory and it doesn't look like, according to how he lived his life, he's in it.

If you're really that thick and judgmental, you are going to have a lot of fun in the military.
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(07-28-2011, 07:43 PM)JoniCath Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 11:46 PM)Servire Deo Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 11:41 PM)TeaGuyTom Wrote: The man that helped bring us a more conservative crop of American Bishops during B16's pontificate apparently got recalled by a higher authority than the Vicar of Christ. He died at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore after becoming unresponsive from lung surgery complications more than a week ago.
http://whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com/...-boss.html
[Image: g12c0000000000000005358c5a5e162fabc4a936...26dbb9.jpg]

"Conservative" means preserving the Vatican II counter-church.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

May God have mercy on your soul. If you are this judgmental in real life, you'll certainly need it!!

Your judgement is selective. If he was widely judged when he was alive, countless babies could have been saved?

But no. Some evil man who condoned Kerry's abortion-loving ways, gave sacrilege to the Eucharist and scandal to the Church get's the Teflon treatment.
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(07-28-2011, 07:52 PM)Servire Deo Wrote:
(07-28-2011, 07:43 PM)JoniCath Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 11:46 PM)Servire Deo Wrote:
(07-27-2011, 11:41 PM)TeaGuyTom Wrote: The man that helped bring us a more conservative crop of American Bishops during B16's pontificate apparently got recalled by a higher authority than the Vicar of Christ. He died at Johns Hopkins in Baltimore after becoming unresponsive from lung surgery complications more than a week ago.
http://whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com/...-boss.html
[Image: g12c0000000000000005358c5a5e162fabc4a936...26dbb9.jpg]

"Conservative" means preserving the Vatican II counter-church.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

May God have mercy on your soul. If you are this judgmental in real life, you'll certainly need it!!

Your judgement is selective. If he was widely judged when he was alive, countless babies could have been saved?

But no. Some evil man who condoned Kerry's abortion-loving ways, gave sacrilege to the Eucharist and scandal to the Church get's the Teflon treatment.

Dude no one is condoning the modernist stuff he did. But it is our duty to pray for him. If Jesus could pray for those who crucified him. We need to pray for those who do bad crap too.
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(07-28-2011, 07:36 PM)Servire Deo Wrote: He's dead and presumed damned. Where else are ipso facto excommunicants presumed to be?

I know about Purgatory and it doesn't look like, according to how he lived his life, he's in it.

Servire, it's time for a little Catechism class.  Pay attention.

You know Our Lord's line about not judging? The modern world often misapplies that quote and thinks that Jesus was talking about not admonishing sinners.  In fact, Our Lord was telling us not to pass judgment on a person's soul-- that's the Father's job, not ours.

No person is presumed damned.  No one.  The Church declares some souls to be in heaven-- they're called "saints".  But the Church has NEVER declared ANYONE to be in hell.  Not in any of the first 1,962 years and not in any of the decades since. Not Hitler, not Tiller, not Muhammad, not even Judas himself.

In fact, saying "He's dead and presumed damned" is a sin of despair (though admittedly, it's not exactly easy to apply despair to someone else's soul), and no Catholic can ever make such a pronouncement.  When people say that you should get to a confessor, they're giving you some sound advice.

Catholics pray for sinners, pray for heretics, and pray for the dead.  No matter how much we don't want to do so.
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(07-28-2011, 03:59 AM)Unum Sint Wrote: Have you heard about his replacement though, apparently is going to be somebody hand picked by Card. Burke. I smell the sweet odor of Victory over the good Cardinals' enemies. Most of them thought he was being sent to Rome to distance him from the liberal Bishops when in reality he was brought to Rome to pick the man that would be in charge of replacing the liberals.

I like the thought! :hello!:
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(07-28-2011, 08:17 PM)WhollyRoaminCatholic Wrote:
(07-28-2011, 07:36 PM)Servire Deo Wrote: He's dead and presumed damned. Where else are ipso facto excommunicants presumed to be?

I know about Purgatory and it doesn't look like, according to how he lived his life, he's in it.

Servire, it's time for a little Catechism class.  Pay attention.

You know Our Lord's line about not judging? The modern world often misapplies that quote and thinks that Jesus was talking about not admonishing sinners.  In fact, Our Lord was telling us not to pass judgment on a person's soul-- that's the Father's job, not ours.

No person is presumed damned.  No one.  The Church declares some souls to be in heaven-- they're called "saints".  But the Church has NEVER declared ANYONE to be in hell.  Not in any of the first 1,962 years and not in any of the decades since. Not Hitler, not Tiller, not Muhammad, not even Judas himself.

In fact, saying "He's dead and presumed damned" is a sin of despair (though admittedly, it's not exactly easy to apply despair to someone else's soul), and no Catholic can ever make such a pronouncement.  When people say that you should get to a confessor, they're giving you some sound advice.

Catholics pray for sinners, pray for heretics, and pray for the dead.  No matter how much we don't want to do so.

This.

To say otherwise is simply not Catholic, no matter how convinced you are
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(07-28-2011, 11:59 PM)LausTibiChriste Wrote:
(07-28-2011, 08:17 PM)WhollyRoaminCatholic Wrote:
(07-28-2011, 07:36 PM)Servire Deo Wrote: He's dead and presumed damned. Where else are ipso facto excommunicants presumed to be?

I know about Purgatory and it doesn't look like, according to how he lived his life, he's in it.

Servire, it's time for a little Catechism class.  Pay attention.

You know Our Lord's line about not judging? The modern world often misapplies that quote and thinks that Jesus was talking about not admonishing sinners.  In fact, Our Lord was telling us not to pass judgment on a person's soul-- that's the Father's job, not ours.

No person is presumed damned.  No one.  The Church declares some souls to be in heaven-- they're called "saints".  But the Church has NEVER declared ANYONE to be in hell.  Not in any of the first 1,962 years and not in any of the decades since. Not Hitler, not Tiller, not Muhammad, not even Judas himself.

In fact, saying "He's dead and presumed damned" is a sin of despair (though admittedly, it's not exactly easy to apply despair to someone else's soul), and no Catholic can ever make such a pronouncement.  When people say that you should get to a confessor, they're giving you some sound advice.

Catholics pray for sinners, pray for heretics, and pray for the dead.  No matter how much we don't want to do so.

This.

To say otherwise is simply not Catholic, no matter how convinced you are

Ditto!
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#39
Then why are certain people denied a Catholic burial?
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:pray: :pray: :pray:
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