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164 FSSP seminarians and 215 SSPX seminarians. That's only a gap of fifty - and one that is probably made up by the other Ecclesia Dei groups.
http://www.fssp.org/en/chiffres.htm
http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/Societ...ldwide.htm
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02-05-2012, 08:29 AM
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(02-05-2012, 07:15 AM)Aragon Wrote: 164 FSSP seminarians and 215 SSPX seminarians. That's only a gap of fifty - and one that is probably made up by the other Ecclesia Dei groups.
http://www.fssp.org/en/chiffres.htm
http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/Societ...ldwide.htm
The SSPX information is way out of date (2008). There are almost as many seminarians in Winona alone as in the FSSP worldwide.
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(02-04-2012, 06:48 PM)The_Harlequin_King Wrote: Why? Because it's good for a man to do something that needs to be done.
Amen brother! This is something that I have to try and work on myself. Its easy to get in the habit of asking "whats in it for me" when in reality we should do it simply because its the right thing to do.
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(02-05-2012, 08:29 AM)matthew_talbot Wrote: (02-05-2012, 07:15 AM)Aragon Wrote: 164 FSSP seminarians and 215 SSPX seminarians. That's only a gap of fifty - and one that is probably made up by the other Ecclesia Dei groups.
http://www.fssp.org/en/chiffres.htm
http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/Societ...ldwide.htm
The SSPX information is way out of date (2008). There are almost as many seminarians in Winona alone as in the FSSP worldwide.
The number of SSPX seminarians
has dropped to 192 in 2011. I don't like playing the numbers game, but your claims are ridiculous.
The main reason the SSPX has more seminaries is that theirs are smaller.
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(02-05-2012, 04:10 PM)Freudentaumel Wrote: (02-05-2012, 08:29 AM)matthew_talbot Wrote: (02-05-2012, 07:15 AM)Aragon Wrote: 164 FSSP seminarians and 215 SSPX seminarians. That's only a gap of fifty - and one that is probably made up by the other Ecclesia Dei groups.
http://www.fssp.org/en/chiffres.htm
http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/Societ...ldwide.htm
The SSPX information is way out of date (2008). There are almost as many seminarians in Winona alone as in the FSSP worldwide.
The number of SSPX seminarians has dropped to 192 in 2011. I don't like playing the numbers game, but your claims are ridiculous.
The main reason the SSPX has more seminaries is that theirs are smaller.
I truly despise the sophomoric, mine is bigger, better, faster, etc., than yours mentality. It really reflects poorly on the whole traditionalist movement. :blah:
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(02-05-2012, 04:10 PM)Freudentaumel Wrote: (02-05-2012, 08:29 AM)matthew_talbot Wrote: (02-05-2012, 07:15 AM)Aragon Wrote: 164 FSSP seminarians and 215 SSPX seminarians. That's only a gap of fifty - and one that is probably made up by the other Ecclesia Dei groups.
http://www.fssp.org/en/chiffres.htm
http://www.sspxasia.com/Documents/Societ...ldwide.htm
The SSPX information is way out of date (2008). There are almost as many seminarians in Winona alone as in the FSSP worldwide.
The number of SSPX seminarians has dropped to 192 in 2011. I don't like playing the numbers game, but your claims are ridiculous.
The main reason the SSPX has more seminaries is that theirs are smaller.
The SSPX has just under 160 more priests than the FSSP has total members, to be perfectly honest comparing the number of seminarians doesn't necessarily give a true representation of a movement either way as they may drop out.
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Let's get serious. If you add all of them together, SSPX through St. John Cantius Canons,it is tiny when you consider how many priests as a percentage were in seminaries before Vatican II. You guys are arguing which horse on the Merry-Go-Round is ahead in the race.
Na na na na na my SSPX is cooler than your FSSP.
tim
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02-05-2012, 04:54 PM
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According to "The Latin Gate" (Official website of the District of France)
http://www.laportelatine.org/internation...s/stat.php
These are the most up-to-date numbers I could find on the SSPX:
6 seminaries, 14 districts, 2 autonomous houses
161 priories, 750 centers of masses
90 schools, 2 university institutes
7 retirement homes for elderly
551 priests
192 seminarians
102 brothers,
179 sisters , 77 Oblates , five convents of Carmelite nuns
It is the number of schools that the SSPX has that I find the most impressive, and if they are as solid at Catholic education
as they are in their ability to develop devout Priests, then they have gone a long way in insuring their future.
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To the person who replied with the Sisters Adorers, thank you :) Unfortunately, they are not as active as my daughter is looking for.
Regarding the FSSP and schools, there was a school the FSSP was involved with in KS (not maple hills) that burned the FSSP rather badly, and left a rather nasty taste in everyone's mouths who left. The many SSPX schools might have more to do with the SSPX mindset, I think.
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(02-04-2012, 03:58 PM)JayneK Wrote: (02-04-2012, 03:43 PM)The_Harlequin_King Wrote: But look, the best way to solve that is to make men a necessity. Men are far more likely to come to work where they are needed. Forbid the teaching of religion to women. Other subjects are okay for nuns. But having female religion teachers undermines the whole idea of religious patriarchy.
There is a lot of truth to this. One of the problems of our culture is the idea that women can and should do anything that men can do. This mistaken notion of equality is harmful even in secular areas ( eg. firefighters) and become even moreso when applied to religion. Men need to be valued and appreciated for their masculine qualities. We need to acknowledge how much we need them. The constant message to men "you are expendable" is both incorrect and destructive.
Jayne, I may disagree with some things you have to say, but you and I are eye-to-eye on this one!
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