What is the Churches postition on marijuana?
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Oh please. That's a simplistic and absurd reductionism of what I said and you know it.

That's like saying someone against slavery (as a practical matter) is implying that Paul was complicit in sin when he sent Onesimus back to Philemon. I clearly said that drinking is not, absolutely speaking, necessarily a personal sin, nor is slavery if done morally. And Jesus knew he could drink responsibly and so could the guests, and Paul knew Philemon would be a kind master treat Onesimus like a brother.

But still...both phenomenon lead to a lot of pain and suffering as social systems...at least as they were/are practiced in America. As an American social phenomenon, at least, alcohol certainly is a social sin. It's a bad situation, clearly.

Things are different even just in Europe, however, and in the Middle East 2000 years ago, certainly so.

For one, they didnt have cars. Two, they did not have strong liquors. It's much harder to OD on wine than on, say, pure vodka. And three, the culture of drinking was different. Because of bacteria, because of the difficulty of getting clean water...and because stored juices ferment naturally with no cooling mechanism...alcohol was the main drink of the medieval and classical worlds. Rather low alcohol content, however. They often mixed it with their water to kill off the bacteria in the water.

But in the US, it just isnt done right, the whole context is different. And yes the "ideal" situation would be to "change people's minds" and "attitudes" so that people did it responsibly...but the fact is...they've tried that for decades and it hasnt worked and 100000 people a year are still dying so..."if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out"...

America as a whole cant be trusted with alcohol, even if some individual Americans can. And you'd think they'd be willing to suck it up to save 100000 lives a year. That is not acceptable "collateral damage" just so that some people can get a buzz or "unwind"...

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What is the Churches postition on marijuana? - by Historian - 06-21-2008, 12:16 PM



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