Refusing vaccines
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SouthernCatholic Wrote:SmileBugMG,

You can do a Google search on "vaccines fetal tissue" or "vaccines aborted tissue" and you'll come up with a plethora of reliable information.

This is the first thing that came up:

Quote:Interestingly enough, a June 9, 2005 statement from the Pontifical Academy for Life (the Vatican's official voice in the area of abortion/right-to-life) comes to essentially the same conclusion. Even though some organizations have mischaracterized the document as condemning the use of such vaccines<a target="_blank" name="f6"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://www.apologia.com/vaccines/vac_abortion.html#r6"><sup>6</sup></a>, the document, in fact, says quite the opposite. It says that when an alternative vaccine which has no connection whatsoever to abortion is available, parents should use it. There is no question that this is the moral thing to do. In addition, when there is no alternative available, parents should object by demonstration, etc. so as to force manufactures to come up with an alternative.

However, as for <i>actually using the vaccines that have no alternatives, the document clearly says that parents can do so in order to protect their children and the community.</i> The English translation of the document (originally written in Italian) says, "As regards the vaccines without an alternative, the need to contest so that others may be prepared must be reaffirmed, as should be the lawfulness of using the former in the meantime insomuch as is necessary in order to avoid a serious risk not only for one's own children but also, and perhaps more specifically, for the health conditions of the population as a whole—especially for pregnant women."<a target="_blank" name="f7"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://www.apologia.com/vaccines/vac_abortion.html#r7"><sup>7</sup></a> Note what this official Roman Catholic document says. It says that parents should CONTEST the vaccines so as to force the manufactures to find new ways to make them, but UNTIL THAT HAPPENS, parents can still use the vaccines that have no alternative, because it will allow them to avoid serious risk to their children, and more importantly, to the population as a whole. The moral good done by the vaccine, then, outweighs any moral evil when it comes to actually USING the vaccine. The statement clearly says the MAKING of the vaccine is bad, but the USE of it is not. In fact, the document <i>specifically</i> mentions rubella as something that should be vaccinated against, even though there is no alternative vaccine—"Moreover, we find, in such a case, a proportional reason, in order to accept the use of these vaccines in the presence of the danger of favouring the spread of the pathological agent, due to the lack of vaccination of children. This is particularly true in the case of vaccination against German measles."<a target="_blank" name="f7"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://www.apologia.com/vaccines/vac_abortion.html#r7"><sup>7</sup></a>

Because some organizations have tried to mischaracterize this statement, the Catholic News Service (CNS) produced an article that quotes Msgr. Jacques Suaudeau, a medical doctor and official at the Pontifical Academy for Life, as saying, "If the health of the child or of the whole population [is at risk], the parents should accept having their kid be vaccinated if there is no alternative." <a target="_blank" name="f8"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://www.apologia.com/vaccines/vac_abortion.html#r8"><sup>8</sup></a> Because some organizations clearly do not like the Roman Catholic church officially saying that the use of these vaccines is morally acceptable, they have asked the Pontifical Academy for Life to change its statement. However, CNS reports that Msgr. Jacques Suaudeau said the document "could not be changed" because it accurately reflected church teaching.<a target="_blank" name="f8"></a><a target="_blank" href="http://www.apologia.com/vaccines/vac_abortion.html#r8"><sup>8</sup></a> Despite what you might read, then, even the Vatican supports the use of vaccines that have a tangential relationship to abortion, as long as no alternative vaccines are available.

http://www.apologia.com/vaccines/vac_abortion.html

I think the whole article is worth reading, but this part most directly addresses the morality issue.
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Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-15-2008, 08:52 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-15-2008, 09:27 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-15-2008, 09:32 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-15-2008, 09:55 PM
Refusing vaccines - by jovan66102 - 05-16-2008, 03:57 AM
Refusing vaccines - by introibo - 05-16-2008, 09:12 AM
Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-16-2008, 04:31 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-16-2008, 04:40 PM
Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-16-2008, 04:44 PM
Refusing vaccines - by AdoramusTeChriste - 05-16-2008, 05:33 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-16-2008, 05:38 PM
Refusing vaccines - by ResiduumRevertetur - 05-16-2008, 07:16 PM
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Refusing vaccines - by GemmaGalgani - 05-17-2008, 03:00 AM
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Refusing vaccines - by AdoramusTeChriste - 05-17-2008, 07:51 AM
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Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-17-2008, 04:00 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-17-2008, 04:44 PM
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Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-19-2008, 03:34 PM
Refusing vaccines - by quoprimumV - 05-21-2008, 07:17 AM
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