Refusing vaccines
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AdoramusTeChriste Wrote:I think the rise in asthma can be associated with vaccination, even in the unvaccinated population. First, we need a preliminary understanding of a couple of the things that make vaccines such an uncertain intervention. One is that no one studies a control group.

This is simply not true. I go to school in Pittsburgh, so we talk about the Salk vaccine for polio ad nauseum. For my nursing research class, we tore apart the whole process for the vaccine testing. It was the largest medical study in the country (1954), a double-blind control study with <i>1.8 million children</i>. This means that half got the vaccine, and half did not (the control group), and nobody knew which was which until the study was over. Others that do not have a formal group of participants for "control" compare the disease rates of their participants, which mirror the general population as closely as possible, to that of the population at large. That's the biggest "control" group you're ever going to get.

Quote: Two is that vaccines disrupt normal disease cycles, and a third factor in the mix is that the normal lines of defense against a virus are by-passed- the membranes of the nose and mouth are teeming with cells designed to alert our immune systems into action at the first of invaders.

When the first sign of the invasion is introduced via injection rather than inhalation, the normal immune response is interrupted and redirected, which is a likely cause of severe reactions. One of my older kids had one of the most common reactions- high-pitched screaming. This is caused by swelling in the brain--- something they don't bother to tell you before injecting the noxious cocktail into infants, but I digress.

Vaccines don't eradicate disease, but they do alter the normal disease cycle, creating a drop in infections. This affects both the vaccinated and unvaccinated child who each remain unexposed to the viruses they would normally encounter through inhalation every few years. Their immune systems never "learn" to distinguish between an irritant and a virus, and they also fail to learn how to fight an illness through the first line of defense. In other words, through vaccines, we traded acute illnesses, such as measles, for chronic illnesses, such as asthma and allergies.

This may or may not be true; I don't know. But children don't die from allergies and asthma. And usually they outgrow the asthma. They can, however, die from measles, diphtheria, rubella, et al. It wasn't unusual. I think saving thousands of children's lives is a fair trade.
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Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-15-2008, 08:52 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-15-2008, 08:57 PM
Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-15-2008, 09:27 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-15-2008, 09:32 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-15-2008, 09:55 PM
Refusing vaccines - by jovan66102 - 05-16-2008, 03:57 AM
Refusing vaccines - by introibo - 05-16-2008, 09:12 AM
Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-16-2008, 04:31 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-16-2008, 04:40 PM
Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-16-2008, 04:44 PM
Refusing vaccines - by AdoramusTeChriste - 05-16-2008, 05:33 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-16-2008, 05:38 PM
Refusing vaccines - by ResiduumRevertetur - 05-16-2008, 07:16 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-16-2008, 07:42 PM
Refusing vaccines - by GemmaGalgani - 05-17-2008, 03:00 AM
Refusing vaccines - by veritas - 05-17-2008, 03:23 AM
Refusing vaccines - by AdoramusTeChriste - 05-17-2008, 07:51 AM
Refusing vaccines - by AdoramusTeChriste - 05-17-2008, 03:07 PM
Refusing vaccines - by SmileBugMG - 05-17-2008, 04:00 PM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-17-2008, 04:44 PM
Refusing vaccines - by AdoramusTeChriste - 05-17-2008, 06:48 PM
Refusing vaccines - by AdoramusTeChriste - 05-17-2008, 07:33 PM
Refusing vaccines - by jovan66102 - 05-18-2008, 04:02 AM
Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 05-19-2008, 03:34 PM
Refusing vaccines - by quoprimumV - 05-21-2008, 07:17 AM
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Refusing vaccines - by Historian - 06-20-2008, 03:20 PM
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