Private Revelations of Marie-Julie Jahenny (1850-1941) FACT OR FRAUD?
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I'm curious if anyone has additional information on Marie-Julie Jahenny (1850-1941) a mystic who had revelations concerning the issuance of a new Mass and if there is any reason to disregard these revelation as fraud?

Info can be found here:
http://www.olrl.org/prophecy/prophecy.shtml
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I've heard from some sources that they were approved by the local bishop.
On the otherhand, I have also heard that not only are they a fraud, but that they were in fact made up a few decades ago by the leader of some rad-trad sect and that the whole history has been delibrately constructed in their publications (and the myth later spread online) and that there never even was a Marie-Julie Jahenny, or at least what she did say has been greatly exaggerated and all sorts of stuff added to it to support a sort of radical fundamentalist-traddy apocalyptic vision.

I dont know which is true. The latter sounds a little bit like a conspiracy theory itself. Though with the internet...whose going to know? Who would actually bother to verify all the articles and such? I suppose it would be rather easy to invent something like this into existence.

However, either way, I do know that the whole "tone" of the alleged apparitions strikes me superstitious and out of line with what they are usually like. I mean...all sorts of herbs are recommended, and other legalistic little rituals for the Three Days of Darkness. It is all very odd.

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Catholic777 Wrote:However, either way, I do know that the whole "tone" of the alleged apparitions strikes me superstitious and out of line with what they are usually like. I mean...all sorts of herbs are recommended, and other legalistic little rituals for the Three Days of Darkness. It is all very odd.
I have to admit I thought the same thing. Why eat a piece of paper with "The Word Was Made Flesh" on it? Nonetheless there's still a problem with the 1969 "Roman" Missal. Cardinals wrote as much, and we know there are evil men in the Church, even priests who are openly freemasons.
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Ruination_ipa Wrote:I'm curious if anyone has additional information on Marie-Julie Jahenny (1850-1941) a mystic who had revelations concerning the issuance of a new Mass and if there is any reason to disregard these revelation as fraud?

Info can be found here:
http://www.olrl.org/prophecy/prophecy.shtml





I am familiar with this and personally, I, for 1, believe.
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#5
From Marty's

"...A Mass that contains words that are odious in My sight"

The following is a summery of the visions from the approved Catholic Mystic, Marie-Julie Jahenny.
Unbelievable and you just have to read it and re-read it to understand what Our Lord and Mary said to this woman!! Everything has happened...and somethings have yet to pass... Hat tip to CR.

Quote:Marie-Julie Jahenny, the mystic and Stigmatist of La Fraudais and perhaps the greatest mystic in the history of the Church, was born on the 12th of February, 1850, in a little village in Brittany (in the West of France), called Blain. The eldest of five children, she was brought up by her simple, good parents in that lively faith for which Bretons are renowned. Our Lord favored her with many graces from the time of her First Holy Communion, graces to which she corresponded with ever increasing devotion. She joined the Franciscan Third Order when in her early twenties, to help to sanctify herself in the world.

In 1873, she received from Heaven that most remarkable mystic gift, the Stigmata. From the age of twenty-three until her death, some sixty years later, she bore in her body the Wounds of Our Lord to a more visible degree than had any other stigmatist in the Church's history. In addition to the Five Wounds of the Sacred Hands, Feet and Side, Marie-Julie suffered the Wounds inflicted by the Crown of Thorns and the Cross on Our Lord's Sacred Head and Shoulder respectively, the Wounds of His Scourging, those caused by the ropes with which He was bound, as well as other Wounds of a more mystical nature.
Henceforth, Marie-Julie lived her life of coredemptive suffering (as a victim soul) in a little cottage in the hamlet of La Fraudais, near Blain. She thus fulfilled Our Blessed Lord's desire for her to make reparation for the sins of France and the world. She was favored with frequent visions of Jesus and Mary, as well as many prophetic lights.

The truth of the Heavenly warnings of which she was to be the humble messenger was vindicated by her characteristic simplicity and honesty, her exemplary obedience to her spiritual directors and her Bishop, and of course, by the fulfillment of all she prophesied during her long life. With unfailing accuracy she foretold the two World Wars, the election of Pope Saint Pius X, the various persecutions of the Church, the chastisements and the fate of apostate France. Much remains to unfold. Her warnings for the Last Times should be read by all "who have ears."
She had the marvelous gift recognizing Eucharistic bread from ordinary bread, objects that were blessed and those that were not ; relics and to say where they came from, and finally to understand in several language hymns and liturgical prayers. During a five year period from December 28, 1875 she survived only on Holy Communion. As Dr. Imbert-Gourbeyre recorded, during this whole period, there were no liquid or solid excretions. She was completely insensitive to pain or intense light during her ecstasies. Some of these ecstasies were accompanied by levitation; at that moment she was ecstatically light.

Marie-Julie was the wonder of the many scientists who examined her continually, the scorn of unbelievers and the proud, the admiration of her lifelong friend, Monsignor Fourier, Bishop of Nantes, and of the devoted circle of those who made the diffusion of her messages to an ungrateful and unheeding world their life's work. She went to her Heavenly reward on March 4, 1941.

Blind, deaf, dumb and crippled, she had subsisted miraculously on the Blessed Sacrament alone, for the last many years of her life. Surely then, we will not pass over lightly what God has confided to her for the benefit of our own sad days.
Prophecies
She had a vision of a dialogue between Our Lord and Lucifer and the latter said : "I will attack the Church. I will overthrow the Cross, I will decimate the people, I will deposit a great weakness of Faith in hearts. There will also be A GREAT DENIAL OF RELIGION. For a time I will be MASTER of all things, everything will be under MY CONTROL, even Your temple and all Your people." "Saint Michael says that Satan will have possession of everything for some time and that he will reign completely over everything ; that all goodness, Faith, Religion will be buried in the tomb. . . Satan and his own will triumph with joy, but after this triumph, the Lord will in His turn gather His own people and will REIGN and TRIUMPH OVER EVIL and WILL RAISE UP from the tomb the buried Church, the prostrated Cross. . . " Marie-Julie saw that "there will not remain any vestige of the Holy Sacrifice, no apparent trace of faith. CONFUSION will be everywhere..."

"All the works approved by the infallible Church will cease to exist as they are today for a time. In this sorrowful annihilation, brilliant signs will be manifested on earth. If because of the wickedness of men Holy Church will be in darkness, the Lord will also send darkness that will stop the wicked in their search of wickedness. . . " On November 27, 1902 and May 10, 1904, Our Lord and Our Lady announced the conspiracy to invent the "New Mass": «I give you a WARNING. The disciples who are not of My Gospel are now working hard to remake according to their ideas and under the influence of the enemy of souls a MASS that contains words that are ODIOUS in My sight.» «When the fatal hour arrives when the faith of my priests is put to the test, it will be (these texts) that will be celebrated in this SECOND period... The FIRST period is (the one) of my priesthood which exists since Me. The SECOND is (the one) of the persecution when the ENEMIES of the Faith and of Holy Religion (will impose their formulas) in the book of the second celebration.. These infamous spirits are those who crucified me and are awaiting the kingdom of THE NEW MESSIAH.»

Marie-Julie Jahenny (June 1881). "In their [priests] aberration, they will break their oaths. The Book of Life contains a list of names that ‘rends the heart.’ "Because of the little respect it has for the apostles of God, the flock grows careless and ceases to observe the laws. The priest himself is responsible for the lack of respect because he does not respect enough his holy ministry, and the place which he occupies in his sacred functions. The flock follows in the footsteps of its pastors; this is a great tragedy. "The clergy will be severely punished on account of their inconceivable fickleness and great cowardice which is incompatible with their functions. "A terrible chastisement has been provided for those who ascend every morning the steps of the Holy Sacrifice. I have not come on your altars to be tortured. I suffer a hundredfold more from such hearts than any of the others. I absolve you from your great sins, My children, but I cannot grant any pardon to these priests."
She [Marie-Julie Jahenny] says that "those who govern the Flock", will be responsible for the coming crisis. Apparently, Communism would not have triumphed if the Church had remained faithful. She mentions the growing freedom enjoyed by priests and bishops and how badly they will use it.

She mentions a pope who, at the last moment, will reverse his policies and make a solemn appeal to the Clergy. But he will not be obeyed; on the contrary, an Assembly of bishops will demand even greater freedom, declaring that they will no longer obey the Pope.

Marie-Julie then goes on to say that the Red Revolution will then break out. She speaks of a "horrible religion" which is to replace the Catholic Faith, and she sees "many, many bishops" embracing this "sacrilegious, infamous religion."
Marie-Julies's prophecies concerning the new liturgy: On November 27, 1902 (Ed. note: The seventy-second anniversary of the Miraculous Medal Apparition [November 27, 1830]) and on May 10, 1904, Our Lord warned of the new liturgy which would one day be instituted: "I give you a warning. The disciples who are not of My Gospel are now working hard to remake according to their ideas, and under the influence of the enemy of souls, a Mass that contains words which are odious in My Sight. When the fatal hour arrives where the faith of my priest is put to the test, it will be these texts that will be celebrated, in this second period."

"The first period is the one of My Priesthood, existing since Me. The second is the one of the persecution, when the enemies of the Faith and of Holy Religion will impose their formulas in the book of the second celebration. Many of My holy priests will refuse this book, sealed with the words of the abyss. Unfortunately, amongst them are those who will accept it."

On May 10, 1904, Our Lady describes the new clergy and its liturgy: "They will not stop on this hateful and sacrilegious road. They will go further to compromise all at once, and in one blow, the Holy Church, the clergy, and the Faith of my children." She announces the "dispersion of the pastors" by the Church herself; true pastors, who will be replaced by others formed by Hell: "...new preachers of new sacraments, new temples, new baptisms, new confraternities."

July 7 1880 Jesus tell Mary - Julie: «the church will be deprived of his supreme chief that now the guidance (...) The Chief of the Church will be offended outrageously». «In the ecstasy of November 4, 1880 Mary - Julie describes us the martyrdom of the pope: «The voice of the Church, under a veiled sigh, comes to make doors broken of my soul the echo of his dying voice sound. The supreme Pontiff launches an agonizing speech toward his people, toward children of which he is the Father. It is a sword for my soul... I see of white birds to carry away in their beak his blood and of shreds of his flesh. I see the hand of Peter breakthrough by the nail as the one of GOD. I see his clothes of ceremony pulled in shreds, clothes of which he dresses his dignity to make take down GOD on the altar. I see all it in my sun. Oh ! that I suffer ! »

Three Days of Darkness
The Three Days of Darkness has been prophesized by many Saints including, Padre Pio. Marie Julie Jahenny is just one of many holy people that have walked this earth and have warned us of the coming chastisement.
Marie-Julie announced the three days of darkness during which the infernal powers will be loosed and will execute all the enemies of God. "The crisis will explode suddenly; the punishments will be shared by all and will succeed one another without interruption... "( January 4, 1884).
"The three days of darkness « will be on a THURSDAY, FRIDAY AND SATURDAY. Days of the Most Holy Sacrament, of the Cross and Our Lady. . . .» three days less one night."
"«The earth will be covered in darkness», says Our Lady on 20th of September 1882, AND HELL WILL BE LOOSED ON EARTH. Thunder and lightning will cause those who have no faith or trust in My Power, to die of fear."
"During these three days of terrifying darkness, no windows must be opened, because no one will be able to see the earth and the terrible color it will have in those days of punishment without dying at once... "
"The sky will be on fire, the earth will split... During these three days of darkness let the blessed candle be lighted everywhere, no other light will shine.... "
"NO ONE OUTSIDE A SHELTER.. will survive. The earth will shake as at the judgement and fear will be great. Yes, We will listen to the prayers of your friends ; NOT ONE WILL PERISH. We will need them to publish the glory of the Cross.... "(8th of December 1882).

" THE CANDLES OF BLESSED WAX ALONE WILL GIVE LIGHT during this horrible darkness. ONE CANDLE alone will be enough for the duration of this night of hell... In the homes of the wicked and blasphemers these candles will give NO LIGHT."
"And Our Lady states : « Everything will shake except the piece of furniture on which the blessed candle is burning. This will not shake. You will all gather around with the crucifix and my blessed picture. This is what will keep away this terror »"
"During this darkness the devils and the wicked will take on THE MOST HIDEOUS SHAPES... red clouds like blood will move across the sky. The crash of the thunder will shake the earth and sinister lightning will streak the heavens out of season. The earth will be shaken to its foundations. The sea will rise, its roaring waves will spread over the continent..."

"«THE EARTH WILL BECOME LIKE A VAST CEMETERY». The bodies of the wicked and the just will cover the ground."
"Three-quarters of the population of the globe will disappear. Half the population of France will be destroyed." (Marquis de la Franquerie, Marie-Julie Jahenny)
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#6
Whew! and I thought the Protestant Apocalypse was daunting!

Another link to her http://www.circleofprayer.com/Marie-Juli...sions.html
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#7
Why don't we write to one of the more or less traditional cardinals on this to see if her apparations are approved?
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seer Marie-Julie Wrote:She mentions a pope who, at the last moment, will reverse his policies and make a solemn appeal to the Clergy. But he will not be obeyed; on the contrary, an Assembly of bishops will demand even greater freedom, declaring that they will no longer obey the Pope.

Sister Lucy of Fatima Wrote:

"The moment has come in which God asks the Holy Father, in union with all the Bishops of the world, to make the consecration of Russia to my Immaculate Heart, promising to save it by this means. There are so many souls whom the Justice of God condemns for sins committed against me, that I have come to ask reparation: sacrifice yourself for this intention and pray." Later, in an intimate communication, Our Lord complained to Sister Lucia, saying: "They did not wish to heed my request. Like the King of France, they will repent and do it, but it will be too late. Russia will have already spread her errors throughout the world, provoking wars, and persecutions of the Church; the Holy Father will have much to suffer."


Hmmmmm....


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Adoramus te, Christe, et benedicimus tibi, quia per sanctam crucem tuam redemisti mundum.
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AdoramusTeChriste Wrote:[

Hmmmmm....

OK, what does Hmmmm mean? Spill it woman! Inquiring minds what to know, and all that.[Image: smile.gif]
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remnant Wrote:
AdoramusTeChriste Wrote:[

Hmmmmm....

OK, what does Hmmmm mean? Spill it woman! Inquiring minds what to know, and all that.[Image: smile.gif]

I just think they fit together very well. The hour is already very, very late. Russia's error (communism) is already world wide in varying degrees. Both seers' concerns are focused on a pope. Our Lady of Fatima asked for the Consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart together with all the world's bishops. Marie-Julie saw a pope being disobeyed in regards to a "solemn appeal." I think the eventual Consecration of Russia might be the line in the sand for the apostate bishops who are stomping all over the Faith. The sad part in all this is twofold: first, there are so many deceived souls who mistakenly believe that the Consecration of Russia was done by JPII (he consecrated the world and did not mention Russia) and second, the suffering of the pope. I would dearly love to see Benedict XVI, together with all the world's bishops, consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. But by now, the personal cost looks to be very, very great. :(


There's my .02, for what it's worth.
S.A.G. ~ Kathy ~ Sanguine-choleric. Have fun...or else.

Adoramus te, Christe, et benedicimus tibi, quia per sanctam crucem tuam redemisti mundum.
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