Aspergers and ADHD
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Satori Wrote:This is very interesting. Okay, here's something I'm wondering: I keep on reading these stupid lists of Aspergers "symptoms" on the web, and one thing that is repeatedly mentioned is that people with Aspergers have difficulty with abstract thought, that they think in concrete terms and take things literally.
To a degree, yes. This is only for social things though, not abstract thinking as a whole.

Quote: Yet there are also lists of famous people who are thought to have had Aspergers, and these lists include a lot of people who you'd think would be masters of abstract thought, metaphor, etc. -- writers and scientists. Explain?
I too am very fond at word games. Surely that is abstract? The problems come when it is in a social situation. One problem many have is with time. It is often a cause of great anxiety with people with AS. Being late and others being late is extremely annoying. This being literal is in the context of society.

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Now when you say that people with Aspergers tend to lack empathy, do you mean they are unempathetic in the same way that a sociopath is -- that they don't care about other people's feelings, that people are basically objects to them?
No, not like that. It means we don't feel it. It doesn't mean we don't care at all. Picture a Terminator programmed to care for others. It will not behave or express itself the same way as humans. Same with people with AS.

For younger people with AS and younger people in general, people are often treated as objects. But on the flipside, people with AS don't expect (or notice) when people care for them in such a way. It can seem shallow as I mentioned; we tend to think in terms of materials rather than emotions. I need my mother because I do not have sufficient income at the moment to pay for rent (although I pay for everything else, I live with my mum). I feel some anxiety at the thought of the death of my mother. I do not feel the same way about anyone else. I do have concern for their temporal well being (and pray for them all, and try to assist my family) and I do love them, I just don't feel it or express it the same way as NT's. The only way an NT perspective makes sense is around other NT's. AS works by itself. Imagine how useless your inbuilt feelings would be in a society which didn't share them. You'd be considered psychotic :)

Quote:That doesn't seem to be the case, but that's what I think when I hear about "lack of empathy." And it would seem that a group of people who tend toward self-destructive behaviors when frustrated by societal misunderstanding and rejection clearly cannot be unemotional; perhaps "Aspies" feel as much emotion as anybody but just have a more introverted way of expressing it? You know, difficulty with facial expressions and verbalizing feelings?

You could say that. It would be an extreme case of that.
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Aspergers and ADHD - by VoxClamantis - 08-22-2008, 05:53 AM
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