Men's Dress Worn By Women
StevusMagnus Wrote:Tele, welcome to the club. They have a lot of things right, but are simply blinded as to the clothing issue, which should come naturally. It's evidence of how the revolution has seeped in with some people to the point they are blinded to what was once obvious.
That is an argumentum ad hominem. YOu are assuming intent and saying we are blind to what is obvious. Yes, it is obvious to you, but do you not see that I see your point of view and disagree with it because I have another which you do not understand? People are quick to say I'm influenced by feminists and modernists or whatever, when I'm not. I fully support modesty for all people, but I'm not so blind by human custom to say that any particular style is appropriate for all time. If I were speaking of people in the past, such as the 20's, and someone said a women in the Church was wearing trousers without good reason, I would be just like you, I'd say that was most likely very inappropriate because at that time, women did not wear such clothing.

Quote:Their arguments are all the same, basically consisting of retreating to odd exceptions from different times and cultures, a relativistic mindset,  a complete ignorance of the fruits of the cultural revolution the West just went through, and a blindness to the diabolical psychological effects behind the wearing of androgynous clothes. The liberals have brainwashed and neutered them on this front.
No, your arguments are all the same. It is because you say so, and that is how you grew up. Any attempt to show the big picture, that styles have changed widely in the past, is meet with the attack "We do not live then", while ignoring the fact if styles changed in the past, they can continue to change.

Quote:It's up to the rest of us to resist the blurring of gender lines as well as the indecent fashions.
I am against blurring of genders and indecent fashions as much as anyone, I'm just not rigid in saying what style of clothing is appropriate.

In the civil war period, men did not shave their facial hair, that only because widespread in WWI wear gas attacks were common. Throughout Church history, various people in the Church have pointed out shaving is effeminate. Why isn't it? For what purpose do you shave? You can tell me you know. Why is it you take a razor and run it over your skin? Is it for a specific purpose besides you were brought up that way? Why is it that you do not see it as effeminate besides that it is now culturally acceptable for men to have faces like women?

Quote:They are indeed relativistic in that their particular preference is always "ok". But if they wanted to be consistent the men would wear a dress and women would shave their head because society "shouldn't dictate what's masculine or feminine" and no clothes are inherently appropriate for a gender. Their philosophy is just an extension of moral relativism and private judgment applied to clothing, really.

You presume too much.

Answer the shaving question. You'll see it is because you are relativistic and it is a fully human custom born of an actual purpose but carried on because of a human habit.
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Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-05-2009, 11:37 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by PeterII - 02-05-2009, 11:48 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Anastasia - 02-05-2009, 11:50 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by didishroom - 02-05-2009, 11:54 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by DrBombay - 02-05-2009, 11:55 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 12:01 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 12:05 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 12:09 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by PeterII - 02-06-2009, 12:19 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 12:20 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 12:46 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 12:57 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 01:00 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by SaintRafael - 02-06-2009, 04:56 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 05:08 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Credo - 02-06-2009, 07:55 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Clare - 02-06-2009, 08:41 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by newtolatin - 02-06-2009, 11:43 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Satori - 02-06-2009, 11:49 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Schatz - 02-06-2009, 11:54 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Anastasia - 02-06-2009, 11:59 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Spooky - 02-06-2009, 12:22 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by moneil - 02-06-2009, 12:42 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by The_Harlequin_King - 02-06-2009, 12:44 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by moneil - 02-06-2009, 12:59 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 01:06 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 01:13 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 01:14 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 01:16 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 01:21 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 01:25 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by didishroom - 02-06-2009, 01:29 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 01:37 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 01:52 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 01:58 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Anastasia - 02-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 02:09 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 02:17 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 02:20 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by The_Harlequin_King - 02-06-2009, 02:21 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Anastasia - 02-06-2009, 02:22 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 02:26 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 02:29 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 02:36 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 02:39 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 02:47 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by newtolatin - 02-06-2009, 02:48 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Anastasia - 02-06-2009, 02:49 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 02:54 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 02:57 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Anastasia - 02-06-2009, 03:01 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by The_Harlequin_King - 02-06-2009, 03:12 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 03:15 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 03:16 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 03:20 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 03:25 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 03:26 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 03:32 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 03:38 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by The_Harlequin_King - 02-06-2009, 03:38 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 03:39 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 03:41 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 03:44 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 03:47 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 03:54 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by The_Harlequin_King - 02-06-2009, 03:55 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 04:08 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Cantus - 02-06-2009, 04:14 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 04:31 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by The_Harlequin_King - 02-06-2009, 04:34 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 04:37 PM
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Men's Dress Worn By Women - by INPEFESS - 02-06-2009, 06:55 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 07:31 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by moneil - 02-06-2009, 07:43 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by INPEFESS - 02-06-2009, 08:06 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by SaintRafael - 02-06-2009, 08:07 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 08:12 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by INPEFESS - 02-06-2009, 08:15 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 08:18 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 08:23 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 08:25 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by moneil - 02-06-2009, 08:30 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 08:32 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 08:37 PM
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Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 08:58 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 08:59 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by INPEFESS - 02-06-2009, 08:59 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 08:59 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 09:00 PM
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Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 09:05 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 09:07 PM
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Men's Dress Worn By Women - by moneil - 02-06-2009, 09:13 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 09:19 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 09:25 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 09:28 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Telemaque - 02-06-2009, 09:30 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 09:31 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 09:31 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 09:33 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 09:35 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 09:36 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 09:37 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by StevusMagnus - 02-06-2009, 09:38 PM
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Men's Dress Worn By Women - by The_Harlequin_King - 02-06-2009, 11:32 PM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-06-2009, 11:33 PM
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Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-07-2009, 05:54 AM
Men's Dress Worn By Women - by Historian - 02-07-2009, 06:23 AM
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Men's Dress Worn By Women - by LRThunder - 02-07-2009, 10:48 AM
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