Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell?
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You are putting restrictions on God? There were many children there and not all were informed of the faith and were simple people.
Of course not. God is perfectly capable of distributing His grace how He means. I firmly agree that God can save whoever He wants, but that doesn't mean He will. He could turn all elephants purple right now, but I ain't holding my breath.

Well let me put it better. He is not bound by His Sacraments, but He is bound by His word.

He promised us that no one would enter heaven without Baptism. That only those that believe in Him and follow His commandments can have eternal life. The Apostles affirmed this, especially Paul who condemned the notion that being a 'good person' is not enough. The Church has stated this in very explicit terms.

As for the children, I assume they would go to the Limbo of the Infants. They are not punished as they had no sins, but they are also lacking sufficient grace.

As for the other 'poor simple people.' I can only accept the words of Christ and His Church ar face value. Theologians have speculated there are exceptions who can be saved without the necessary requirements but the Church has made no pronoucements affirming such. In fact her infallible statements seem only to contradict such notions. The Fathers of the Church debated this and never had a unanimous agreement. But even they only saw the exceptions for unbaptized catechumens. They all believed only those that held the Faith could hope for heaven. 


Pope Eugene IV: The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also <B>Jews</B> and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; 
 
You said above that God has no restrictions. Well if so, than why do you assume that Nazis and gas chambers are restricting these Jews from salavtion if God really wants them to have it? Why must we assume that there is some loophole that happens after we die? Why do presume that the words of Jesus and His Bride are not good enough?

God is all merciful and all just. He is also all knowing. He knows the hearts of all. If people died outside the Church then I can only assumed that they died guilty of rejecting salvation and that no one is responsible but themselves.

I trust God is all love. I won't entertain the loopholes invented by fallible theologians to help me sleep better at night.
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Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:34 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by SCG - 02-12-2009, 08:38 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 08:39 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:40 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 08:41 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:41 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:42 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:46 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Anastasia - 02-12-2009, 09:06 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Credo - 02-12-2009, 09:27 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:00 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:02 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:11 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by didishroom - 02-12-2009, 10:19 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:21 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:39 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by SCG - 02-12-2009, 11:03 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Credo - 05-03-2009, 06:57 PM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by JPM - 05-03-2009, 11:10 PM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Benno - 05-04-2009, 03:59 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Walty - 05-07-2009, 03:39 PM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by HMiS - 05-09-2009, 06:43 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by HMiS - 05-11-2009, 09:05 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by ggreg - 05-13-2009, 06:56 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by ggreg - 05-13-2009, 07:09 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by ggreg - 05-14-2009, 12:52 PM



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