Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell?
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We can't judge any individual soul.  However, we know what the *conditions* for salvation are.  However many Jews who died in the Holocaust went to Heaven, of at least that number we know that they had become Catholics before their particular judgment.  If they weren't baptized, they didn't go to Heaven, *BUT* we *CAN'T SAY IN ANY INDIVIDUAL CASE* that the person *WASN'T* baptized.  Pope Eugenius IV in Cantate Domino says that unconverted Jews as a category go to Hell.  *BUT* we can't say in any individual case that the person was unconverted because we *don't know.*  I don't presume to judge that anyone who died in the Holocaust went to Hell.  But if you're going to deny the Church's dogma on "extra ecclesiam nulla salus" in order to allow for their salvation, that means that you presume to know whether they were converted or unconverted at the time of their particular judgment.  That too is presumption, for you do not and cannot know that.

So, the teachings on "extra ecclesiam nulla salus" are known.
Those who went to Heaven went as Catholics.
Those who weren't Catholics at the time of their particular judgment went to Hell (i.e. they were denied the Beatific Vision; for those who had no personal sin in addition to original sin, it is permitted to believe they enjoyed natural happiness in Limbo).
We have absolutely *NO* way of knowing who was or was not Catholic at the time of their particular judgment.
Ergo, we should not infer that any individual went to Hell. 
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Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:34 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by SCG - 02-12-2009, 08:38 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 08:39 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:40 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 08:41 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:41 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:42 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by warning - 02-12-2009, 08:46 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Anastasia - 02-12-2009, 09:06 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Credo - 02-12-2009, 09:27 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:00 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:02 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:11 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:21 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 10:39 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by SCG - 02-12-2009, 11:03 PM
Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Historian - 02-12-2009, 11:20 PM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Credo - 05-03-2009, 06:57 PM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by JPM - 05-03-2009, 11:10 PM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Benno - 05-04-2009, 03:59 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Walty - 05-07-2009, 03:39 PM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by HMiS - 05-09-2009, 06:43 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by Bonifacius - 05-10-2009, 02:10 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by HMiS - 05-11-2009, 09:05 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by ggreg - 05-13-2009, 06:56 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by ggreg - 05-13-2009, 07:09 AM
Re: Did the Holocaust Jews go to hell? - by ggreg - 05-14-2009, 12:52 PM



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