effect of rock music
#21
The_Harlequin_King Wrote:Tejano is universally condemned, though. There's no such thing as a good Tejano song.

Show me an example of Tejano.  I want to hate it too.

- Lisa
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#22
LaRoza Wrote:
Bonifacio Wrote:Based on what it produces.

That doesn't make sense. You could judge a song with that, nothing more.

All such judgements only show one thing: not knowing what rock or metal is. Those ignorant are the ones first to judge.

Have you even read the article and given it a chance before calling them ignorant?

Personally, I'm not ignorant of what rock or metal music is. I've played guitar since I was 15 years old and I've been involved in some garage bands besides being a regular listener to all kinds of rock and metal since my early teenage years.

From a christian perspective, their fruits are not good. There are good musicians out there, especially in the progressive rock and metal genres, and there is occasionally genuinely good music out there but as a whole I think we should try to avoid it.
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#23
Here's a good example of a rock band, a classical orchestra and choir combining together on stage (Within Temptation).




StrictCatholicGirl Wrote:Show me an example of Tejano.  I want to hate it too.

- Lisa

Your pain is my pleasure.




Many moons ago, I worked at a flea market selling caskets and tombstones. My booth was directly across from a Tejano music booth, which played the same stuff all day long. I must have docked off at least a decade in purgatory thanks to that experience.


Telemaque Wrote:“Rock is a basic way to express passions which, in big audiences, may assume characteristics if cult or even adoration, contrary to Christianism.”
(Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Pope Benedict XVI)

Very true.

The same can be said for the romantic-era composers.
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#24
The_Harlequin_King Wrote:The same can be said for the romantic-era composers.

I already admitted it could be bad, but there is no comparison, I'm sorry.

I can understand why people get defensive, seeing as they are immersed in the culture, but it is a simple fact that the kind of music that is popular today is totally opposed to the Catholic Faith. It is also bad for the nerves.

There is no justification for the defense of today's music that I see in this thread.

The cult of the aberrant, the ugly, the discordant, the destructive - that is the inspiration of the current music.

It is not for nothing that the Beatles put Alestair Crowley on the cover of Sargent Pepper.

Someone who suggests that the style of music that is popular today is just a matter of style, and is not inferior to the classic tradition, someone who suggests that it is not degenerate, not suggestive of diabolical influence, is in my opinion, someone who is terribly confused or arguing in bad faith.



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#25
Looking for enriching music among pop/rock etc. is essentially looking for a needle in a haystack. 

There are a few tunes that are good and stable musically with unity and variety to them without being monotonous

The lyrics which are usually the most obvious things problematically are even occassionaly edifying.  Bishop Williamson once said that those things that were used as steps going down from God can also be used to go back up towards God. 

I found this one in Los Lonely Boys' song from a few years ago. 

It's a nice little vignette.






"Heaven"

Save me from this prison
Lord help me get away
Cause only you can save me now
From this misery
Cause I've been lost in my own place
And I'm getting' weary
How far is heaven
And I know I need to change
My ways of livin'
How far is heaven, Lord can you tell me

Cause I've been locked up way too long
In this crazy world, how far is heaven
I just keep on prayin' Lord
Just keep on livin', how far is heaven
Lord can you tell me, how far is heaven
I just got to know how far, how far is heaven
Lord can you tell me

Tu que estas en alto cielo,
Echame tu bendiciòn
[translated from Spanish]
[You that's in a higher place
Send me down a blessing]


Cause I know there's a better place
Than this place I'm livin', how far is heaven
So I just got to show some faith
And just keep on giving, how far is heaven
Lord can you tell me, how far is heaven
I just wanna know how far, how far is heaven,
Lord can you tell me, how far is heaven,
'cause I just gotta know how far,
I just wanna know far


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#26
Telemaque Wrote:I already admitted it could be bad, but there is no comparison, I'm sorry.

There certainly is. A ready example that comes to mind is that of Giuseppe Verdi. Extremely passionate music, rowdy audiences, Italian nationalism, overturned carriages... looking at the good Pontiff's quote:

Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger Wrote:“Rock is a basic way to express passions which, in big audiences, may assume characteristics if cult or even adoration, contrary to Christianism.”

A comparison can indeed be made.
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#27
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Originally Posted by The_Harlequin_King
Many moons ago, I worked at a flea market selling caskets and tombstones. My booth was directly across from a Tejano music booth, which played the same stuff all day long. I must have docked off at least a decade in purgatory thanks to that experience.

This is really off topic, but you sold caskets and tombstones?  Gotta be a story there.  [Image: popcorn.gif][Image: popcorn.gif]
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#28
I'm not a big fan of any Rock music that came after the British invasion of the mid 60's.  After that the sweet southern soul of Rock was pretty much swallowed up by the social activist message of 60's.  It figures that Europeans would take a perfectly harmless genre of American music and then twist it around to promote socialism and rebellion.


The only music I tend to listen to post 1965 are Pavarotti, Don McLean, Bruce Springsteen and his E street band, and Super tramp.  The rest are just crap if you ask me.
Bob
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#29
Over 30 years ago, at my formerly-Catholic college, I would occasionally find myself in the library basement, looking at bound volumes of of old periodicals.  The Catholic Digest of the 1930s and 40s contained articles condemning the popular music of the time as mindless garbage. 
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#30
LaRoza Wrote:
Stephanos Wrote:Also, a while back there was a Japanese scientists doing experiments with water molecules - exposing water to different types of music would cause them to form different patterns. However, rock music, as I recall, tended to create distorted or chaotic images.
Yes, that was a hoax. Beware of New Age mysticism.

Is there evidence that this experiment was a hoax, and is such evidence available on line? Thank you in advance.
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