Austrian Bishops in Open Revolt Against Pope
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http://catholicknight.blogspot.com/2009/...ainst.html
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Oh boy...

AustrianBishops Wrote:For all differences, this path of the church persevering in prayer and in conversation with the universal Church should be undertaken on the basis of the Second Vatican Council.

The Revolution is on.
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Quote:We also moved as bishops that in the Diocese of Linz once again there has been significant tension with the recent appointment. It is not just about differences of opinion in terms of structures and methods, but ultimately the question of sacramental identity of the Catholic Church. This especially this concerns the ordination for priests and deacons in relation to the general priesthood of all the baptized.

What the hell does that even mean?
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It is most likely that the mentioned "Cardinals" and "Bishops" belong to Kiko Arguello. They would go to any length to keep someone like Bishop Wagner out.




Archbishop Christoph Cardinal SCHÖNBORN
ArchbishopAlois KOTHGASSER
Diocesan Bishop Egon KAPELLARI
Diocesan Bishop Klaus KÜNG
Military Bishop Christian WERNER
Diocesan Bishop Paul IBY
Diocesan Bishop Alois SCHWARZ
Diözesanbischof Ludwig SCHWARZ
Diocesan Bishop Manfred SCHEUER
Diocesan Bishop Elmar FISCHER

http://www.zenit.org/article-22170?l=english
Movement Sponsors Meeting of Prelates in Holy Land

KORAZIM, Israel, APRIL 1, 2008 (Zenit.org).- After 40 years of Europe saying "no" to its future, the Neocatechumenal Way is leading the way to say "yes," according to the archbishop of Vienna.

Cardinal Christoph Schönborn said this at a meeting of nine cardinals and 160 European bishops who gathered March 24-29 at the Domus Galilaeae International Center on the Mount of Beatitudes in Galilee to reflect on the New Evangelization in Europe.

The participants in the meeting, which was organized by the Kilo Argüello, Carmen Hernández and Father Mario Pezzi, founders of the Neocatechumenal Way, were greeted by a telegram sent by the Pope's secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, who sent greetings and the blessing of Benedict XVI.

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neel Wrote:What the hell does that even mean?
I think the entire paragraph 6 is worth quoting here.

Quote:6. The situation in the vast diocese of Linz makes the bishops worry - this even after the resignation of Father Gerhard Wagner. There is much good news from this diocese, which is often too little seen, even if some problems should be mentioned. Upper Austria has a very vibrant church, with a dense network of active parishes and pastoral centers, a keen sense of the social dimension of the Christian faith, provides great help in the solidarity in the worldwide church with the poor and marginalized. Major monasteries and religious communities dominate the country. Catholic lay organizations are especially active. We also moved as bishops that in the Diocese of Linz once again there has been significant tension with the recent appointment. It is not just about differences of opinion in terms of structures and methods, but ultimately the question of sacramental identity of the Catholic Church. This especially this concerns the ordination for priests and deacons in relation to the general priesthood of all the baptized. The pastoral path can only be followed which is in accordance with the worldwide church. For all differences, this path of the church persevering in prayer and in conversation with the universal Church should be undertaken on the basis of the Second Vatican Council.
It sounds like the "Upper Austria" contains a treasure trove of Catholic real estate and trust funds. There has been much looting going on with the national "bail-outs." Maybe the Linz diocese is being looted and the bishops don't want an outsider coming in to check the books.
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Walking_Home Wrote:KORAZIM, Israel, APRIL 1, 2008 (Zenit.org).- After 40 years of Europe saying "no" to its future, the Neocatechumenal Way is leading the way to say "yes," according to the archbishop of Vienna.

Cardinal Christoph Schönborn said this at a meeting of nine cardinals and 160 European bishops who gathered March 24-29 at the Domus Galilaeae International Center on the Mount of Beatitudes in Galilee to reflect on the New Evangelization in Europe.
It's a bad sign that European Bishops go on collective junkets to Israel like US Congressmen and Governors. I wonder if US bishops do the same thing.
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columba Wrote:It sounds like the "Upper Austria" contains a treasure trove of Catholic real estate and trust funds. There has been much looting going on with the national "bail-outs." Maybe the Linz diocese is being looted and the bishops don't want an outsider coming in to check the books.

Oi. Is that really what this is about?  Is it still 1520? [Image: doh.gif]
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A couple of observations:

1) For bishops supposedly in communion with Rome, they're acting more like Protestants than Catholic bishops.

2) The irony, or the hypocrisy, is that these same bishops probably blasted the SSPX for disobedience, and yet they are being even more disobedient.



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Quote:Our talk of God must always also be a talk about people.

I thought it was always a talk about what He did for us...his sacrificial death on the cross.

Quote:For all differences, this path of the church persevering in prayer and in conversation with the universal Church should be undertaken on the basis of the Second Vatican Council.

Apparently, V2 was the be-all and end-all for them. Never mind the fact that there have been many other councils in the history of the Church.

Quote:We hope that the inadequate communication processes in the Vatican will also be successfully improved so that the worldwide service of the Pope does not suffer damage.

God forgive me for saying this, but if only they would actually open their ears, they'd know that the only inadequate communication going on is on their part, not the Vatican's. Pope Benedict has made it quite clear what he's doing.



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columba Wrote:
Walking_Home Wrote:KORAZIM, Israel, APRIL 1, 2008 (Zenit.org).- After 40 years of Europe saying "no" to its future, the Neocatechumenal Way is leading the way to say "yes," according to the archbishop of Vienna.

Cardinal Christoph Schönborn said this at a meeting of nine cardinals and 160 European bishops who gathered March 24-29 at the Domus Galilaeae International Center on the Mount of Beatitudes in Galilee to reflect on the New Evangelization in Europe.
It's a bad sign that European Bishops go on collective junkets to Israel like US Congressmen and Governors. I wonder if US bishops do the same thing.
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 Kiko Arguello is resourceful in providing the ways to build up his following.

http://www.christusrex.org/www2/ncw/english/nprss02.htm

250 BISHOPS ATTEND NEOCATECHUMENAL MEETING
IN NEW YORK CITY

NEW YORK, APRIL 7, 1997 - Something really important must be happening in the Catholic Church for more than two hundred and fifty American bishops to meet in the heart of the "Big Apple", New York. These two hundred and fifty-three bishops, including two cardinals and forty archbishops, met from the first to the fifth of April. They were from all the countries of the American continent, from Canada in the north to Argentina in the south; and from cities such as New York, New Orleans, Newark, Mexico City, Bogota, Caracas, Sao Paulo, Quito, San Salvador, La Paz;

The bishops came in response to an invitation from the initiators of the Neocatechumenal Way, Kiko Arguello and Carmen Hernandez, to reflect upon how to evangelize the contemporary world. It also proved to be an opportunity for them to become better acquainted with one of the instruments which the Holy Spirit has raised up in the Church in answer to this need. The meeting was authorized by the two Cardinals present, Cardinal Nicolas de Jesus Lopez Rodriguez, Primate of the Americas, and Cardinal O'Connor of New York.

The meeting took place in a beautiful room full of light. Platforms placed at various levels enabled everyone in the assembly to participate easily. The platforms were covered with red carpet helping the gold and colors of the icons surrounding the room to stand out. There was a feeling of being in Paradise where time no longer exists - and led to someonereflecting on how this new aesthetic could be put to use in the evangelization.

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