Pius IX -- Liberal Catholics...worst enemies
#1
I've often heard that Pius IX said that "liberal Catholics are the worst enemies of the Church."  But I can't find the source of the quote.  Would someone please point me to the source?  Thanks. 
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#2
I don't know if he said that exact quote, but here are a bunch of quotes of his which essentially the say the same thing (they are taken from the book, Liberalism is a Sin):

On the 18th of June, 1871, responding to a deputation of French Catholics, Pius IX spoke thus:
"Atheism in legislation, indifference in matters of religion, and the pernicious maxims which go under the name of Liberal Catholicism are the true causes of the destruction of states; they have been the ruin of France. Believe me, the evil I denounce is more terrible than the Revolution, more terrible even than The Commune. I have always condemned Liberal Catholicism, and I will condemn it again forty times over if it be necessary."
In a brief, 6th of March, 1873, addressed to the Circle of St. Ambrose of Milan, the Sovereign Pontiff thus expresses himself:
"People are not wanting who pretend to form an alliance between light and darkness and to associate justice with iniquity in favor of those doctrines called Liberal Catholicism, which, based on the most pernicious principles, show themselves favorable to the intrusion of secular power upon the domain of spirituals; they lead their partisans to esteem, or at least to tolerate, iniquitous laws, as if it were not written that no one can serve two masters. Those who thus conduct themselves are more dangerous and more baneful than declared enemies, not only because, without being warned of it, perhaps even without being conscious of it, they second the projects of wicked men, but also because, keeping within certain limits, they show themselves with some appearance of probity and sound doctrine. They thus deceive the indiscreet friends of conciliation and seduce honest people, who would otherwise have strenuously combated a declared error."
In the Brief of the 8th of May of the same year, speaking to the Confederation of the Catholic Circle of Belgium, the same Holy Father said:
"What we praise above all in your religious enterprise is the absolute aversion which, as we are informed, you show towards the principles of Liberal Catholicism and your intrepid determination to root them out as soon as possible. In truth you will extirpate the fatal root of discord and you will efficaciously contribute to unite and strengthen the minds of all in so combating this insidious error, much more dangerous than an open enemy because it hides itself under the specious veil of zeal and of charity, and is so endeavoring to protect the people in general from its contaminating influence. Surely you, who adhere with such complete submission to all decisions of this Apostolic Seat and who know its frequent reprobations of Liberal principles, have no need of these warnings."
In the Brief to the La Croix, a Belgium journal, on the 24th of May, 1874, the Pope expresses himself thus:
"We cannot do less than to praise the design expressed in this letter, which we know your journal will satisfactorily fulfill, the design to publish, to spread, to comment on and inculcate in all minds all that the Holy See teaches against the perverse or at least false doctrines professed in so many quarters, and particularly against Liberal Catholicism, bitterly striving to conciliate light with darkness and truth with error."


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#3
We miss popes like H.H. Pius IX. Such an intrepid combatant of Christ, such a zealous Pontiff and pastor of souls!
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#4
That's BL. Pius IX.
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#5
John Vennari uses the quote "worst enemies of the Church."

Here's another quotation

Quote:In a letter to the French deputation headed by the Bishop of Nevers on June 18, 1871, Blessed Pius IX said:

"That which I fear is not the Commune of Paris - no - that which I fear is liberal Catholicism ... I have said so more than forty times, and I repeat it to you now, through the love that I bear you. The real scourge of France is Liberal Catholicism, which endeavors to unite two principles as repugnant to each other as fire and water.”

http://www.freemasonrywatch.org/alta_vendita.html
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#6
Is it not odd though that these are not very magisterial documents at all? A brief here, a comment there. Yet in them he claims he will condemn liberal Catholicism. Did he not do so somewhere more official?

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#7
The principles of Liberalism, of which the Liberal Catholics were promoting were condemned solemnly in the encylical Quanta Cura. The Syllabus of Errors is also a list and very brief summary of authoritative allocutions and other documents where various errors associate with Liberalism are condemned.

I'm sure other encyclical letters of his contain similar teachings as well. Qui Pluribus comes to mind as an example of one sent to the whole Church. He also wrote a lot of letters to individual nations.
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#8
maldon Wrote:Is it not odd though that these are not very magisterial documents at all? A brief here, a comment there. Yet in them he claims he will condemn liberal Catholicism. Did he not do so somewhere more official?

The Syllabus of Errors makes specific and more general condemnations. "Liberalism," is a rather vague term to condemn in a magisterial document. Nevertheless:

Quote:I have always condemned Liberal Catholicism, and I will condemn it again forty times over if it be necessary.

No matter how many he times he said it, or how he said it, it would not be, has not been enough for liberal Catholics.

That shouldn't be a surprise though - because liberal Catholics are the enemy, so of course they would ignore the Pope.
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#9
Thank you, Telemaque, I think this is a problem with liberalism; it is so slippery, like a snake. It is so full of disparate heresies, by the time you pin one down another - in the tail - has moved out of reach.
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#10
What Liberalism boils down to is the exaltation of reason over faith (or to the exclusion of it). It is the independence of the mind and will from God.

In the civil sphere it results in a pure positivism where the state, representing the will of the people, is supreme (it is not even subject to God, the objective moral order, etc.)

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