If you don't vote with the culture of death...
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http://www.americanpapist.com/blog.html Frightening: New website exposes where Prop. 8 donors live!
This is very scary .... from a UK Telegraph blogger:
Quote:Valleywag is reporting today on a new Google Maps mashup, eightmaps.com, which gives the name and profession of every Proposition 8 donor. It also lists how much they donated and shows where they live.
The site's strapline is distinctly creepy:
"Proposition 8 changed the California state constitution to prohibit same-sex marriage. These are the people who donated in order to pass it."
In other words, for everyone who is angry that some people don't want homosexual marriage - this website shows them where to direct their attacks. Literally. Frightening.

update: on a perhaps related note, the HBO show "Big Love" aired parts of the temple rights of the Mormon church during their latest episode. Why should we care? Reader James:
Quote:"Because to Mormons this is akin to the desecration of the blessed sacrament [to Catholics]. Needless to say, it has caused outrage in the Mormon community ... some theorize that this was done in revenge for the Mormon Church's campaigning for Prop. 8."
Of course, this is not strictly-speaking akin to desecration of the Eucharist, but we still ought to show solidarity with Mormons for the persecution they are receiving because of their Prop. 8 support. This is an issue of justice.



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Magdalene Wrote:update: on a perhaps related note, the HBO show "Big Love" aired parts of the temple rights of the Mormon church during their latest episode. Why should we care? Reader James:
Quote:"Because to Mormons this is akin to the desecration of the blessed sacrament [to Catholics]. Needless to say, it has caused outrage in the Mormon community ... some theorize that this was done in revenge for the Mormon Church's campaigning for Prop. 8."
Of course, this is not strictly-speaking akin to desecration of the Eucharist, but we still ought to show solidarity with Mormons for the persecution they are receiving because of their Prop. 8 support. This is an issue of justice.




I think this is being blown out of proportion. Apparently the only reason they're angry is because the ritual is being shown on TV as it would happen in real life. This would be the same as Catholics being upset that someone was portrayed receiving Communion on television. I don't think this is related to the Prop. 8 issue at all. Big Love was around long before Prop 8.
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Mommie2Boys Wrote:
Magdalene Wrote:update: on a perhaps related note, the HBO show "Big Love" aired parts of the temple rights of the Mormon church during their latest episode. Why should we care? Reader James:
Quote:"Because to Mormons this is akin to the desecration of the blessed sacrament [to Catholics]. Needless to say, it has caused outrage in the Mormon community ... some theorize that this was done in revenge for the Mormon Church's campaigning for Prop. 8."
Of course, this is not strictly-speaking akin to desecration of the Eucharist, but we still ought to show solidarity with Mormons for the persecution they are receiving because of their Prop. 8 support. This is an issue of justice.




I think this is being blown out of proportion. Apparently the only reason they're angry is because the ritual is being shown on TV as it would happen in real life. This would be the same as Catholics being upset that someone was portrayed receiving Communion on television. I don't think this is related to the Prop. 8 issue at all. Big Love was around long before Prop 8.

No. It's not akin to Catholics seeing someone receiving Communion.

The LDS Rituals are secret/sacred, depending on who you talk to. The rituals do not resemble anything that the average LDS-in-the-pew ever sees, simply because so few LDS actually are "worthy" of attending the temple.

The whole experience is rather jarring and depending on which version of the ritual that was televised can cause even the most dyed-in-the-wool LDS to think "WTF" and want to bolt. It is so bad that only a small percentage of the LDS who are found "worthy" even attend the temple after their fourth time. So if these rituals are widely telecast enough, their missionary effort would go even further into the toilet than it already has. They are losing far more members than they are dunking - they just do not report the former members who ask to be removed from the mailing list as it were. Their view of baptism is radically different than ours and can be rescinded and repeated with surprising regularity. It is not considered an indelible stamp on the soul by any stretch of the imagination.

The rituals are so jarring and the covenants so disrubing that it got so bad that the leadership commissioned a pole to identify the most objectionable elements in the ritual. God favored the LDS with a revelation ratifying the results of the poll and the rituals were modified accordingly. A right accommodating god; eh?

It could be as damaging to the LDS as it would be to the Catholic church if the DaVinci code were proven true.
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How on earth is this legal? The putting up of someone's address, I mean.
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phnuggle Wrote:How on earth is this legal? The putting up of someone's address, I mean.
I don't know, but type your name into yahoo or google.  Don't be shocked if your address and phone number come up...


As far as the Mormon ritual thing goes, I doubt that it was because of Prop 8.  Big Love was around before that, and they seem to expose quite a bit about the LDS and FLDS churches.   
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DarkKnight Wrote:No. It's not akin to Catholics seeing someone receiving Communion.

The LDS Rituals are secret/sacred, depending on who you talk to. The rituals do not resemble anything that the average LDS-in-the-pew ever sees, simply because so few LDS actually are "worthy" of attending the temple.

The whole experience is rather jarring and depending on which version of the ritual that was televised can cause even the most dyed-in-the-wool LDS to think "WTF" and want to bolt. It is so bad that only a small percentage of the LDS who are found "worthy" even attend the temple after their fourth time. So if these rituals are widely telecast enough, their missionary effort would go even further into the toilet than it already has. They are losing far more members than they are dunking - they just do not report the former members who ask to be removed from the mailing list as it were. Their view of baptism is radically different than ours and can be rescinded and repeated with surprising regularity. It is not considered an indelible stamp on the soul by any stretch of the imagination.

The rituals are so jarring and the covenants so disrubing that it got so bad that the leadership commissioned a pole to identify the most objectionable elements in the ritual. God favored the LDS with a revelation ratifying the results of the poll and the rituals were modified accordingly. A right accommodating god; eh?

It could be as damaging to the LDS as it would be to the Catholic church if the DaVinci code were proven true.


I see your point. The scene in question is the Endowment Ceremony. Funny thing is, you can go online and read a jillion different accounts, articles, and even the formula itself if you want to. Why aren't the Mormons lobbying to sue anyone who posts such things, especially the formulas and rituals themselves?
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