Bishop Sanborn responds to the "rupture theology" article
(06-03-2009, 10:31 PM)GodFirst Wrote:
lamentabili sane Wrote:Did you miss this?

"But such are not the stakes in Vatican II. We are dealing with a moral teaching, namely religious liberty, and a dogmatic teaching, namely the nature of the Catholic Church, its government and structure, and the fact that it is the unique means of salvation."
This is also true. But the Church can development Her Doctrine on Her own nature.

That's not at issue here. She cannot contradict Herself. That is de fide.

Quote:The Church's spiritual scope has and cannot be solemnly defined in this world and time, because the Church is a spiritual organization as well as an visible one, for instance we do not know all the Saints which are in Heaven. Not all theologian opinions concerning ecclesiology were Dogma before Vatican II, right? Vatican II may have developed doctrine. Developing doctrine is not changing Sacred Dogma which is unchangeable by nature.

All due respect, but you're in over your head here.

Here is Cardinal Ottaviani:

"Jesus Christ, the divine founder of the Church, could indeed have left many things to the decision of men in regard to the social organisation of the Church: nevertheless, in fact He did not so leave them, but He Himself willed to establish all things which regard the fundamental constitution and organisation of the Church in so far as it is a perfect society. Consequently the principal part of the public law is divine, containing the immutable and permanent laws concerning the nature of the church, her authority and teaching office ... Examples of divine public law are: the statutes by which the Church is granted full and independent legislative, judicial, and coercive power in affairs which in any manner pertain to her end; also, the statutes which pertain to the primacy of jurisdiction of the Roman Pontiff over the whole Church, and the constitution of the sacred hierarchy; similarly, those by which the Church is granted the faculty, free and independent from any power, of acquiring, keeping and administering temporal goods in order to achieve ends proper to herself. Examples of human public law are: norms relative to the institution and rights of patriarchal sees; certain rights contained in concordats; certain norms concerning the government of the Church during the vacancy of the Apostolic See and the election of the Roman Pontiff."

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Re: Bishop Sanborn responds to the "rupture theology" article - by lamentabili sane - 06-03-2009, 10:35 PM

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