Bishop Sanborn responds to the "rupture theology" article
(06-04-2009, 06:55 PM)QuisUtDeus Wrote:
(06-04-2009, 05:47 PM)newschoolman Wrote: Like I said, this best article on this subject [DH] is linked below.  If you want real understanding (in continuity with Tradition) then give it a serious read.  Warning: it deals with a complex subject matter and may not be easy reading for some.

(06-03-2009, 10:57 PM)newschoolman Wrote: The notion that DH contradicts sacred Tradition is nonsense.  This article by Bishop Ketteler (1862) gives the proper perspective on the whole matter and distinguishes between true and false relgious freedom.  It is simply "Rupture Theology" to argue that DH contradicts prior teaching.

Well, it seems to me this guy engages in "Gymnastic Theology" where he goes through all kinds of contortions and gyrations to invent continuity.  He doesn't even address the Syllabus, except to use selective quoting from the CE where he says:

"Gymnastic Theologian" Wrote:Other laws that presuppose religious unity also begin to lack foundation once that basic unity has been shattered. The Catholic Encyclopedia (1912) states: “…the coexistence of the most varied religious beliefs in every land have imposed the principle of state tolerance and freedom of belief upon rulers and parliaments as a dire necessity and as the starting-point of political wisdom and justice. The mixture of races and peoples, the immigration into all lands, the adoption of international laws concerning colonization and choice of abode, the economic necessity of calling upon the workers of other lands, etc., have so largely changed the religious map of the world during the last fifty years that propositions 77-79 of the Syllabus published by Pius IX in 1864 (cf. Denzinger, op. cit., 1777-79)…do not now apply even to Spain or the South American republics to say nothing of countries which even then possessed a greatly mixed population (e.g. Germany).”

Now, let's continue in the CE where he conveniently left off:

"The rest of the story" Wrote:Since the requisite conditions for the erection of new theocratic states, whether Catholic or Protestant, are lacking today and will probably not be realized in the future, it is evident on the basis of hard facts that religious liberty is the only possible, and thus the only reasonable, state principle. If, in those lands where she still enjoys a privileged position as state Church (e.g. Italy and Spain), the Catholic Church would not allow herself to be driven from this position without a protest, she has not only a right, but is even under obligation to offer this protest. For a justly acquired right should not be surrendered in silence.


I don't see how you can say that Bishop Kettler contorts anything.  Yes, there are some complex concepts to follow -- but his writing is very clear.

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