Thoughts on Vatican II and a question for you
(07-23-2009, 10:29 PM)lamentabili sane Wrote:
(07-23-2009, 10:23 PM)QuisUtDeus Wrote:
(07-23-2009, 10:05 PM)lamentabili sane Wrote:
Quote:Too many parents were lulled into trusting [previously trustworthy] Catholic authority and therefore took not only the faith, but also one of their primary duties as parents for granted, namely, the procreation and education of their children for granted.

Catholics are supposed to obey authority. If the pre-V2 authority was "trustworthy" then how can you say the laity could have been TOO trusting of Catholic authority.

The problem was SIN...people needed to amend their lives and stop offending God, especially in the public forum.

This ecclesiological crisis is a consequence of sin, and NOT due to too much"trust" in the Authority of the Church (that Christ founded and shed His precious Blood for).

One could say that the crisis was a consequence of the sin of presumption - that the fact God would be with His Church forever meant we didn't need to do much.

The proximate rule of Faith for a Catholic is THE PREACHING OF THE CHURCH (the LIVING ecclesiastical magisterium). That is not presumption.

Well that may be the "proximate rule of faith" (never heard of that one) but the primary duty of each and every individual human being has never changed, namely, to get to heaven. . . . . . ."Why did God make us? God made us to know love and serve Him in this world........"

It is ultimately up to us to "persevere unto the end", yet the "LIVING ecclesiastical magisterium" somehow broadcast that all we needed to do was be sincere in whatever belief we happened to be a part of so as to merit favor with God and eternal salvation.

Regardless of teachings or wordings, the above message got out loud and clear - and completely contradicts the faith as promulgated since the time of Our Lord here on earth................why did the masses choose to believe  and follow it? Well, that's the "wide road" that Our Lord said that most folks take.

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Re: Thoughts on Vatican II and a question for you - by Stubborn - 07-23-2009, 10:47 PM

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