Why was England so interested in conquering Ireland?
(07-25-2009, 09:52 AM)alaric Wrote:
(07-25-2009, 08:55 AM)Bonifacius Wrote: If the English are douche bags and imperialism sucks, wouldn't the collapse of the British Empire be a good thing?  And didn't Hitler admire the British Empire and offer to support it?  So wouldn't that mean that Hitler was on the wrong side on this one and the British declaration of war benefited the folks in the British Empire?  
Hitler admired the fact that the British were basically more of Germanic cousins where both nations descended from the same central Germanic tribes and also the fact that the English people in theory were also vehemently opposed to Communism and the Soviet Stalinism as well, although they eventually winded up licking the boots of "uncle joe" like the rest of the Western allies during and after the war.

Hitler was against Communism, Britain enabled Communism to take root on the continent, because it "benefitted" the Empire in the long run.

As an aside, I think it's interesting to note the differences between German and English experiences under the Romans. The Germans had a much tougher time adjusting to what the Romans wanted from them ("civilisation") than the English, although both put up a fight. And Hitler ended up using Roman nostalgia, through the lens of Germania, to build the ideal German identity: that of the beautiful savages, living idylic lives in forests. I remember reading that one major thing the Romans found worthy of respect amongst the barbaric tribes of Germany was their monogamy (as well as their stoicism). But of course it was Roman disillusionment with the slow corruption and decadence of the City and its laws which made moralists and writers turn towards their own Etruscan and rustic roots, idealising those and creating them as a commonality with the Germans. It's odd that Hitler used so much of what the Romans saw of themselves in the Germans as fundamental to German identity itself. It's like seeing yourself twice through a mirror.

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Re: Why was England so interested in conquering Ireland? - by Melita - 07-25-2009, 10:01 AM

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