Why was England so interested in conquering Ireland?
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(07-25-2009, 10:55 AM)Bonifacius Wrote:
(07-25-2009, 10:51 AM)Melita Wrote:
(07-25-2009, 10:46 AM)Bonifacius Wrote: An interesting aside, but I'd note that the Romans never ruled "the English."   They ruled Celts living in Britain.  The Angles, Saxons, and Jutes (the English proper) came later.  They were Germanic tribes and never lived under Roman rule.

The Romans easily established control over southeastern tribes in England (eg the Caractacus).... the Iceni were a little more trouble. But it's true that the whole of Britain was never under Roman control. I should have said Britons rather than English :P

I'm not sure you understand what I was objecting to.  I didn't think that you meant the Romans ruled all of Britain.  I meant that the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes (who eventually became the English) weren't even living in Britain when the Romans ruled the island.  They were over in Denmark and northern Germany, free from Roman rule.  So, yes, the Romans ruled all of what eventually became England, it's just that the English weren't there yet.

You misunderstood the point of my post, which was really about German identity in the Third Reich as a primarily Roman construct. I was talking about Britons, and their tribes. The dates I had in mind: c.43-410 AD. And the Romans never did succeed in subduing all of Britain.
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Re: Why was England so interested in conquering Ireland? - by Melita - 07-25-2009, 10:57 AM



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