Define "Neo-Con"
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Well in that case I direct you to my answers before which are about your question #1.   That is my only answer.

questions 2 and 3 are speculation by their very nature as an "if so" question.  So no place to go really.

So in summation
1 - could be
2 - my definition of my term leaves open the possibility of vast differences among members
3 - "Politics makes strange bedfellows" as they say


It's as boring as that in this subforum.


I would be interested to your answer to question three if it's different that mine but there's not much of an argument to be had since there are no books to whip out.  Everyone here has their own def of any of these terms...McMasters even calls himself a traditional catholic.


Besides to illustrate how people can be allies or just agree just take a look a SCG.   She is full on NO and admits it, some people have even questioned her Catholicity here.  I've heard her complain about it and I've seen it!   On the other hand, for all my bravado about the NO Mass and the TLM we have never taken each other to task and have agreed on a good deal!


Kind of like I agree with a lot of Didi, and a lot with INPEFESS, so two other types of trads should be able to find a good deal of common ground from time to time.

Another example is my favorite place here -- the prayer request board --  (which by way of shameless promotion I'd like anyone who has not been there to check it out).

You'll see everyone there, from NO to people who dabble in the thesis praying for each others requests...a very heartening thing.


I think most of what people like or dislike here is personality based and not based on theology.


So unfortunately a somewhat amusing topic will not be populated and we don't get to see the prorogation of new genres of metal.
(additionally I noticed several posts back that you wrote "If Scipio calls me a pseudo trad...".   I assume that was for the sake of argument since you have never seen the TLM as a choice among equals.)

I'm assuming also that you agree with this from the site (I do):

url:  http://www.fisheaters.com/traditionalcatholicism.html

Quote:Some refuse to attend Novus Ordo Masses (except for funerals and weddings of family and friends), thinking it invalid or believing it "morally impossible" to do so because they see it -- not because of what it is, inherently, but because of what it isn't, what it lacks -- as too dangerous to the Faith to support, even if valid. If they have no access to the traditional Mass, some of these traditional Catholics become "home-aloners" making do like our forbears during various persecutions. Other traditionalists may attend Novus Ordo Masses out of their understanding of the requirements of obedience if the traditional Mass is unavailable in their area, while doing all in their power to find a traditional Mass.

Despite these varying opinions on the requirements of obedience, what all traditional Catholics who fit the label have in common -- whether they are sedevacantist, whether they worship inside or outside of diocesan structures -- are:


    * the dogmas of the Faith understood in a manner consistent with the way Catholics had always understood them -- i.e., they reject the errors outlined above
      
    * a desire to preserve and restore all of the ancient liturgical rites, and to do so not because these are "preferred," but because they are objectively superior to the new rites and should once again become normative

and once again my def of p.t. is someone who attends the TLM only because they prefer it as a choice among equals.


Not that it matters anyway since I've labeled a neo trad, schismatic, ultra trad, sedevacantist and liberal!  Always a good laugh when that happens.

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I can't figure a way to tie this to neo con y'all so make something up ;D

Opps.   Neo Caths and cos pray in the Prayer request board too!!!

All tied up!
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Messages In This Thread
Define "Neo-Con" - by OCLittleFlower - 07-27-2009, 05:10 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by DarkKnight - 07-27-2009, 05:49 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by timoose - 07-27-2009, 07:21 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by SCG - 07-27-2009, 07:25 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by DarkKnight - 07-27-2009, 11:51 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Marc - 07-28-2009, 01:21 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Marc - 07-28-2009, 04:18 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by James02 - 07-28-2009, 04:37 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by matthew_talbot - 07-28-2009, 07:15 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Scipio_a - 07-28-2009, 09:05 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by JacafamalaRedux - 07-28-2009, 10:33 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 10:39 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Master_P - 07-28-2009, 11:29 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by timoose - 07-28-2009, 11:31 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by veritatem_dilexisti - 07-28-2009, 11:41 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by timoose - 07-28-2009, 12:07 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by epalinurus - 07-28-2009, 12:25 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 03:16 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 03:18 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Scipio_a - 07-28-2009, 04:07 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by James02 - 07-28-2009, 04:27 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by DarkKnight - 07-28-2009, 05:05 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 05:26 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Scipio_a - 07-28-2009, 06:02 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 06:19 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by JacafamalaRedux - 07-28-2009, 07:54 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 08:35 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by JacafamalaRedux - 07-28-2009, 08:48 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 09:00 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Scipio_a - 07-28-2009, 09:06 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 09:12 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by SCG - 07-28-2009, 09:14 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Scipio_a - 07-28-2009, 09:15 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 09:37 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 09:43 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Scipio_a - 07-28-2009, 09:50 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-28-2009, 10:36 PM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Scipio_a - 07-29-2009, 01:27 AM
Re: Define "Neo-Con" - by Historian - 07-29-2009, 04:47 AM



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