Why do so many Catholics drop the ball when it comes to EENS?
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Quote:That is the protestant interpretation and paradoxically, yours.  I think from the context, and the use of the strong language "forbid", withholding water is an allegory for withholding salvation.  Furthermore, the Church has always taught that baptism removes Original Sin and infuses the soul with Sanctifying Grace.  Therefore, Cornelious was a condemned man until he was baptized.  Just because he did some good deeds and prayed, this could never atone for his sins.  He needed to be washed with the waters of regeneration.

You've got it backwards.  Cornelius is described as a "just" man before water baptism, certainly not as a condemned man. The Protestant interpretation is yours.  Here are Protestants backing up your interpretation of scripture: http://www.christiancourier.com/articles...g-baptized; http://www.christistheway.com/2004/a04a05aa.html

And here is St. Thomas Aquinas contradicting that false Protestant interpretation:
Quote:Reply to Objection 2. As stated above (1, ad 2; 68, 2) man receives the forgiveness of sins before Baptism in so far as he has Baptism of desire, explicitly or implicitly; and yet when he actually receives Baptism, he receives a fuller remission, as to the remission of the entire punishment. So also before Baptism Cornelius and others like him receive grace and virtues through their faith in Christ and their desire for Baptism, implicit or explicit: but afterwards when baptized, they receive a yet greater fulness of grace and virtues. Hence in Psalm 22:2, "He hath brought me up on the water of refreshment," a gloss says: "He has brought us up by an increase of virtue and good deeds in Baptism." (Third Part, Question 69)


Quote:So for adult converts the Holy Ghost acts BEFORE baptism, giving us Faith and amending our will, which leads us to come to the regeneration of holy baptism.  This is what happened to Cornelius.  Your Bible passage does not prove anything, except that God will send a missionary to those He wishes to save.

This is partly true, but omits the fact that our sins can be forgiven before water baptism as St. Thomas Aquinas clearly teaches.  While God sends missionaries, they are not strictly necessary to be saved - just like God sends priests to administer the last rites to someone on their deathbed, even though you can still be forgiven if you have perfect contrition.  
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Re: Why do so many Catholics drop the ball when it comes to EENS? - by PeterII - 08-07-2009, 05:04 PM



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