Why do so many Catholics drop the ball when it comes to EENS?
(09-01-2009, 05:50 PM)James02 Wrote: Bait and switch.  We were talking about Augustine's teaching on Cornelius.  You seemed to claim that Augustine held that Cornelius was "justified" before baptism.  I asked for your source on this.  Where is it?  If you don't have it, then state the truth, Augustine never said Cornelius was justified before baptism.  It doesn't mean you lose, but let's stick with the facts.

Edit:  P.S. -- Faith before baptism has never been in dispute.  All adult catechumans have Faith before baptism.  That is an actual grace.

Quote:...so in Cornelius the spiritual sanctification came first in the gift of the Holy Spirit, ...

"CE, on Grace" Wrote:Formal operations

Sanctifying Grace has its formal operations, which are fundamentally nothing else than the formal cause considered in its various moments. These operations are made known by Revelation; therefore to children and to the faithful can the splendour of grace best be presented by a vivid description of its operations. These are: sanctity, beauty, friendship, and sonship of God.

1. Sanctity
The sanctity of the soul, as its first formal operation, is contained in the idea itself of sanctifying grace, inasmuch as the infusion of it makes the subject holy and inaugurates the state or condition of sanctity. So far it is, as to its nature, a physical adornment of the soul; it is also a moral form of sanctification, which of itself makes baptized children just and holy in the sight of God. This first operation is thrown into relief by the fact that the "new man", created injustice and holiness (Ephesians 4:24), was preceded by the "old man" of sin, and that grace changed the sinner into a saint (Trent, Sess. VI, cap. vii: ex injusto fit justus). The two moments of actual justification, namely the remission of sin and the sanctification, are at the same time moments of habitual justification, and become the formal operations of grace. The mere infusion of the grace effects at once the remission of original and mortal sin, and inaugurates the condition or state of holiness. (See Pohle, Lehrb. der Dogm., 527 sq.)

I don't know what else to say.

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Re: Why do so many Catholics drop the ball when it comes to EENS? - by lamentabili sane - 09-01-2009, 11:03 PM

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