Christopher West Thanks and Responds to his critics
(10-24-2009, 06:29 PM)Walty Wrote:   Have you read Theology of the Body?  I think it is a pretty amazing work.  I can't stand what Christopher West does with it, but his crap does not reflect the actual documents.  TOB itself is a deep and thorough understanding of the theology of the body which is entirely different than a 30 minute Bishop Sheen treating of the matter or a except from the Baltimore Catechism.  They aren't aiming for the same thing and both have their places.

I'll need you to elaborate on specifically what you mean when you say TOB is a deep and thorough understanding of TOB.  That's too circular for me.  What is TOB aiming at and what is its place? 

Bishop Sheen for 30 minutes can give you a guide to life and how to live it according to the Catholic Church's teachings. 

TOB is a personal view of JPII that has no basis in tradition, and you can reply to much of it.  "Sez you."  It is virtually incomprehensible since when anyone criticizes it, the response is "you just don't understand it."  Christopher West will tell you, you just don't understand what he's saying.  I doubt JPII understood it.

I've read some of it.  Enough of it to not want to bother to read the whole thing.  I personally don't even like the term "Theology of the Body" (the study of God of the Body).  What Christopher West presents is enough of what JPII presents from my reading and attending the TOB course.  And what course is, is what is being promoted by Bishops, Cardinals, parishes, EWTN as Theology of the Body.  If JPII is so much different, he's simply incapable of expressing what he really meant clearly.  I hope to never read " a certain way"  as a conclusion again. 

JPII's whole treatment of Genesis is like it's some kind of metaphor for 'the meaning" of "Man's search for Man"  it's a bunch of narcissistic navel-gazing from someone who DOES NOT BELIEVE it is an actual account of history.  This is because JPII has a mindset that is based on Evolution and not Revelation.

The meaning of Genesis is very clear.  It's how we got here, what happened to us that shows why we're broken and why Christ had to come redeem us and to give us a chance to be restored to our proper state and then be brought to what we were created for.  To Love God. 

JPII like Karl Rahner attempted to impose a whole new set of meanings on Scripture and build a new religion around an "experiential" philosophy that they might believe in but is not in any way proven to be a Universal truth.  Card. Ratzinger's "In the Beginning" is yet another disappointing read. 


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Re: Christopher West Thanks and Responds to his critics - by Gerard - 10-24-2009, 07:45 PM
UO - by Historian - 10-29-2009, 01:49 AM
Re: UO - by Gerard - 10-29-2009, 10:51 AM

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