Vatican condemns Hallowe'en as anti-Christian
#31
When "the Vatican/L'osservatore" condemns all of the heresies that I see in my NO parish, as well as all of the others, I'll actually lend an ear.  Until then...  it's a family forum, so I won't.
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#32
No kidding...I see this crap and the espousal of Socialism from the same Vatican Machine...and some bozo here says amen...I'll be a real ass and unplug my doorbell....Classic.

Just like prots to misunderstand the things people do.


Sex, sex, sex, and you're going to Hell.

Don't dance,it's the Devil, and it might make you want to get it on.

Don't drink...it's the Devil...and you might want to get it on.


Don't do Halloween because you dress in goblin outfits which means you worship Devils and your kids will become Devil worshipers and then when older...they'll want to get it on....

Nuts...there is almost nothing that comes from that place that is worth listening to....

If the Vatican has never done this before...then we know it's bullshit.




Just because some Wiccans run around in their underwear...and some real scumbags use this as a perfect op for a Black Mass and a good time to drink goat piss and skin cats...does not mean good people should forget what it's all really about.
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#33
(10-31-2009, 12:24 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: No kidding...I see this crap and the espousal of Socialism from the same Vatican Machine...

Yeah, that was a huge factor in my falling away, originally.

Say, are you supposed to be...
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#34
Here's how I have always seen it All Hallows eve was to acknowledge the meaner things of life death, hell, purgatory, the devil and his minions and other evil things real or fake like vampires werewolves etc. then like a crescendo the following day we celebrate the Church triumphant. My two worthless cents.
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#35
My understanding is that we are mocking the Devil when we dress up...and do silly things...Nothing pisses him off more than a good mock because he is Pride!!! and Pride can't stand a mocking

But the NO does not believe in the Devil so why mock him...and they certainly don't need the competition for dollars by other pseudoreligions (even directly evil or paganish ones ) that are more than happy to partake of the festivities...so what better than to scare people away...and skim those dollars...
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#36
Mocking. 

I like mocking...
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#37
(10-31-2009, 12:50 AM)Scipio_a Wrote: My understanding is that we are mocking the Devil when we dress up...and do silly things...Nothing pisses him off more than a good mock because he is Pride!!! and Pride can't stand a mocking

Thats what I thought too. Thats why you would have a devil costume with like a clown nose on it or something.
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#38
(10-30-2009, 07:50 PM)INPEFESS Wrote: Those are some interesting thoughts, Fontevrault. I am a horror movie connoisseur myself, so I am interested in what you have to say. Would you mind sharing your perspective and thoughts from a moral standpoint?

I'm not sure it's entirely a moral perspective; I find stories of perverted human beings dismembering others profoundly yucky and disturbing.  But, I think I can make the stretch to talk a little about the moral perspective . . . 

Keep in mind I'm speculating as I type; I certainly don't pretend to be an authority of any kind.  A lot of those movies have some basis in occult practices, demonology, or other such stuff.  To dabble in these things is certainly bad.  Now that's not to say a simple image on a TV screen is going to damage the individual but those images have a way of staying with a person and can prey on the mind.  Our culture is so saturated with imagery today that this argument seems silly.  And yet, if pornography is evil because it arouses lust and debases human sexuality, then these movies could be said to debase and pervert the human condition (we are sinful - but hopefully not that sinful) while simultaneously portraying Satan and his minions as more powerful than they really aught to be.  In that sense, it's the difference between Milton's Satan and Dante's.  Does this make any sense?  :-[
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#39
(10-30-2009, 02:43 PM)Tulkas Wrote: About time!   :boxers:


Reminds me, I got to disconnect the doorbell tonight.
How cruel!

Kids like me would throw our toothbrushes, candied apples and other crappy treats at houses like yours. We would even knock on the houses with no cars/no lights on, and we'd get some ticked off people opening the door. One lady gave us tonic water just because she was unprepared. Well that tonic water somehow found its way into a dent in her garage door. I mean tonic water? who gives that to a kid? Honestly.

Just warning yeah, kids get their vengence, and they are quick.

(10-30-2009, 07:30 PM)MeaMaximaCulpa Wrote: I think the most spiritual danger on Halloween comes from young people thinking its appropriate to wear less clothes than usual.  I'd be much more worried about that than from letting your kid throw a sheet on his head to get candy.
That certainly isn't a problem in Canada! Too many Halloweens would I spend getting dressed up only to have to wear a huge wintercoat over top the custume.


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All of that aside I'll just say this... lighten up people, its just a bunch of kids having fun dressing up in order to get some free candy. It's a whole lot of harmless fun.
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#40
(10-31-2009, 11:43 PM)Fidelis Wrote: ------------
All of that aside I'll just say this... lighten up people, its just a bunch of kids having fun dressing up in order to get some free candy. It's a whole lot of harmless fun.

Exactly when did we start acting like the godless puritans. This latest crap from the Vatican Crap machine seems like something you'd hear from a baptist minister. I am glad I ignore 99.9% of what comes out of Newchurch.
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