Priestly Vows of Obedience
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(11-04-2009, 02:33 PM)Rosarium Wrote:
(11-04-2009, 02:31 PM)nsper7 Wrote: When a person receives Holy Orders and becomes a Priest, they make certain vows, especially a vow of obedience? Who are they vowing to obey? My understanding is that they are promising to obey their Bishop (if they are Diocesan) or their Superior (if they are religious). Therefore, as it relates to the Traditional issues, aren't Priests still required to obey their Bishop (and the Church in general)? For example, the Church has deemed the NO Mass valid and the Ordinary Form, therefore aren't Latin Rite Priests required to celebrate it if there Bishop so desires it?

It seems like if you are a Priest, then you are required to obey your superiors (either Diocesan or religious) and you are always required to adhere to Canon Law, correct?

Your intent is clear;  Counselor Troi is not needed.

God is always first when it comes to obedience.

As for Canon law, it does allow for "disobedience" when it is necessary.

I didn't get the first line. Anyway...

In terms of the second line, what does that mean? Remember, we recognize the authority of the Church and of the Successors to the Apostles. Therefore, couldn't it be argued that even if we personally feel that God is calling us to do something in contravention of the Bishop, etc., we must still obey the laws of the Church.

In terms of the third line, I know there are parts of Canon Law that allow for "disobedience" to superiors under certain circumstances, but are there any laws that require such disobedience, except in cases of sin (i.e. if the Bishop orders you to murder someone...)?
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Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 02:31 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 02:33 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 02:39 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 02:43 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 02:46 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 02:48 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jonkknox - 11-04-2009, 02:50 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 03:07 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by glgas - 11-04-2009, 03:59 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 04:07 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 04:14 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 04:15 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 04:22 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 04:25 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 04:29 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 04:36 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by goggleeyes - 11-04-2009, 04:38 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 05:30 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 05:33 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by goggleeyes - 11-04-2009, 05:41 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 05:44 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 05:52 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 06:00 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 06:08 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 06:18 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jonkknox - 11-04-2009, 06:40 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 06:59 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:04 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:15 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:33 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by franklinf - 11-04-2009, 07:41 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 07:47 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:50 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 07:53 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by franklinf - 11-04-2009, 07:56 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:58 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 08:05 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 08:06 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 08:10 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 08:13 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 08:16 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 08:20 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 08:22 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:01 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 09:05 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:10 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 09:15 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 09:19 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:22 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 09:28 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 09:33 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:35 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:35 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 09:37 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 09:41 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:45 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 10:00 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-05-2009, 01:36 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-05-2009, 02:11 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-05-2009, 04:15 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-05-2009, 12:08 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-05-2009, 12:51 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-05-2009, 12:53 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Texican - 11-05-2009, 10:56 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by SinfullyLate - 11-10-2009, 12:19 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-10-2009, 01:55 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by SinfullyLate - 11-10-2009, 03:33 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-10-2009, 04:20 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by SinfullyLate - 11-10-2009, 04:56 AM



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