Priestly Vows of Obedience
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(11-04-2009, 05:44 PM)nsper7 Wrote: 1) Do I think could give an order for the NO to be celebrated by these groups?

I would assume it would depend on the agreement between the Bishop and the group (i.e. FSSP, ICKSP, etc.). After all, if the Bishop made a formal agreement that the FSSP Priest or whatever would only be required to celebrate the TLM/EF (perhaps with a clause thrown in about extreme circumstances such as every NO/OF celebrant getting sick and there needing to be a Priest to celebrate the NO/OF), then wouldn't the Bishop have to abide by said agreement or face a complaint to the Vatican for being dishonest and breaking an agreement? On the other hand, if it is sort of just an 'informal understanding', then yes the Bishop would be within his rights to require an FSSP, etc. Priest to celebrate an NO Mass.
I said to not make assumptions and your first words in your answer were "I would assume".

It is ok to say "I don't know".

The issue here isn't what the agreement was. A bishop could change, and they do. The Bishop can do as he pleases, but would the priest be required to obey?

Quote:2) Should they obey it?

Yes, although if there were dishonesty on the part of the Bishop or a violation of a formal agreement, I would assume there would be grounds to lodge a complaint with the Vatican.
Ah, this is where the problem is. You say they would be bound to obey a command that is questionable. I would say that they are no under obligation to deny their vows for human, even if he is a bishop.
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Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 02:31 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 02:33 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 02:39 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 02:43 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 02:44 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 02:46 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 02:48 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jonkknox - 11-04-2009, 02:50 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 03:07 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by glgas - 11-04-2009, 03:59 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 04:07 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 04:14 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 04:15 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 04:22 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 04:25 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 04:29 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 04:36 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by goggleeyes - 11-04-2009, 04:38 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 05:30 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 05:33 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by goggleeyes - 11-04-2009, 05:41 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 05:44 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 05:52 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 06:00 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 06:08 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 06:18 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jonkknox - 11-04-2009, 06:40 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 06:54 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 06:59 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:04 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:15 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:33 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by franklinf - 11-04-2009, 07:41 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 07:47 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:50 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 07:53 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by franklinf - 11-04-2009, 07:56 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 07:58 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 08:05 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 08:06 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 08:10 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 08:13 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 08:16 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 08:20 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 08:22 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 08:59 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:01 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 09:05 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:10 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 09:15 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 09:19 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:22 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 09:28 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 09:33 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:35 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:35 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 09:37 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by jovan66102 - 11-04-2009, 09:41 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-04-2009, 09:45 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-04-2009, 10:00 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-05-2009, 01:36 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-05-2009, 02:11 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-05-2009, 04:15 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-05-2009, 12:08 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-05-2009, 12:51 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Historian - 11-05-2009, 12:53 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by Texican - 11-05-2009, 10:56 PM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by SinfullyLate - 11-10-2009, 12:19 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-10-2009, 01:55 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by SinfullyLate - 11-10-2009, 03:33 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by nsper7 - 11-10-2009, 04:20 AM
Re: Priestly Vows of Obedience - by SinfullyLate - 11-10-2009, 04:56 AM



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