Mark of the Beast
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(12-02-2009, 10:08 PM)John C Wrote: Irish Cowboy: Just because protestants quote from the bible doesn't mean quoting from the bible is exclusively protestant (is that logical?), i make no apologies for doing so, i wish i knew the bible better so i could do it more, and God willing i will do just that in the future. I don't have time to give a list of bible and Church references that laud the practice; suffice to say they are numerous, with the addition that Jesus dismissed Satan using only scripture in the desert, used it repeatedly in his arguments with the pharisees, and St Paul also encouraged it for refuting error. I would recommend that as many Catholics as possible read their bible often. As far as i know you gain a partial indulgence for reading scripture for 1/2 hour every day.

The enemies of truth don't like it though, and i really don't see how it's my leading argument.

What you said is not logical.  What I said is logical.  I said it was a protestant tactic.  You extended my statement by adding the word exclusively.  That's a straw man.  You accuse others of using straw men, but you do it quite frequently yourself.  It may not have been your leading argument originally, but it was the first thing you said to me, therefore it was your leading argument when speaking to me.  Besides that, it was insulting.  I haven't insulted you in any way, besides telling you that you were wrong, and perhaps in calling you a kid.  I deduce that you must be younger than me because of your frequent (and highly annoying) use of the "word" 'u' when you mean 'you,' and 'b4' when you mean 'before.'  Most people older than me do not have this texting/chatting habit of abbreviating words this way.

(12-02-2009, 10:08 PM)John C Wrote:
Quote: Besides, they're not required for buying and selling in the way most people understand the doomsday prophecies to predict.  They're just a facilitator.  It's not illegal to buy or sell something with no barcode
After what i've just said to Rosarium about misrepresenting my arguments, i'm not going to dignify that with any further response.

You don't have to dignify it at all.  By responding, you would only be un-dignifying it.  It's true, whether you respond to it or not.  Many small grocery stores and gas stations don't even have a barcode scanner, therefore, they don't use it for selling, and you don't use it for buying.  It's not a method.  The method of buying or selling involves you handing cash, check, or credit card to the clerk.  The scanning of the barcode is a method of finding out what is being sold for inventory and receipt itemization purposes.  It just saves you and the clerk time.


(12-02-2009, 10:08 PM)John C Wrote: From http://www.av1611.org/666/barcode.html   
(about 60% of the way down the page)
Quote:But. . .
Look again. . . All three guard bars contain the pattern "bar-space-bar" or "101". There is only ONE number, in TWENTY numbers (remember right and left numbers have different patterns) that contains the "101" pattern and that number is the right code SIX. Not the number one, or two, or three, etc. — but ONLY the right code SIX. I do seem to remember something about a mark on the RIGHT hand (Rev. 13:16). 

So it's not 1 in 10, it's 1 in 20 and also pretty strong evidence that u never read what i had originally referenced. That's unfortunate - i referenced it because it is worth reading,  - i would appreciate if u would do that b4 commenting further. And we are working on the assumption that these bars are necessary at all, AND on the assumption that they all had to be the same.

Then u have to factor in that these codes are used almost universally for buying and selling therefore bearing an uncanny resemblance to a certain biblical prophecy - THAT'S where the probability goes off the chart. We're not just talking about a random event like throwing dice or playing slot machines that have no relevance to anything else. The chances that we would get a 666 which so strikingly resembles the prophecy is something else entirely.

A random everyday 666 is ONE coincidence such as someone's name having 3 6s. Someone announcing one day that they are going to introduce a universal method of buying and selling is ONE coincidence (as it partially fulfills the prophecy).

Someone announcing one day that they are going to introduce a universal method of buying and selling that involves a blatant 666 is TWO coincidences - 'the number' and the 'buying and selling'.

When someone decides that we should all have some kind of mark that has 666 in it, for buying and selling, on our right hand or forehead, that will be THREE coincidences (the number, the buying and selling, and the right hand)

So far, we have 'the number' and the 'buying and selling'. To get the probability of two coincidences coinciding, u immediately reach stupidly large numbers.

First of all, we won't be required to put a barcode on our right hand or forehead.  If we were, obviously I and most others on this forum wouldn't do it.  So you can't talk about 3 coincidences, because one of them hasn't even happened.  We've had the 'number' ever since the Bible was written.  We don't have the "buying and selling" as you've been trying to argue.  Therefore, we have only one coincidence -- the fact that barcodes (not a method of buying and selling) have a few places in them where something resembling a 6 appears.
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Mark of the Beast - by Munda_cor_meum - 11-21-2009, 04:37 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by John C - 11-30-2009, 02:21 AM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by John C - 11-30-2009, 10:44 PM
Re: Mark of the Beast - by Iuvenalis - 12-01-2009, 01:20 AM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by Historian - 12-01-2009, 10:31 AM
Re: Mark of the Beast - by RalphKramden - 12-01-2009, 11:12 AM
Re: Mark of the Beast - by CrusaderKing - 12-01-2009, 02:15 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by CrusaderKing - 12-01-2009, 07:48 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by Munda_cor_meum - 12-01-2009, 09:03 PM
Re: Mark of the Beast - by John C - 12-01-2009, 09:13 PM
Re: Mark of the Beast - by Historian - 12-01-2009, 09:27 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by IrishCowboy - 12-02-2009, 07:26 PM
Re: Mark of the Beast - by Historian - 12-02-2009, 08:55 PM
Re: Mark of the Beast - by John C - 12-02-2009, 10:08 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by Historian - 12-02-2009, 10:18 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by IrishCowboy - 12-03-2009, 01:28 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by IrishCowboy - 12-03-2009, 06:54 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by Historian - 12-03-2009, 07:37 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by IrishCowboy - 12-04-2009, 12:52 AM
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Re: Mark of the Beast - by IrishCowboy - 12-04-2009, 02:08 PM
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