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(11-29-2009, 05:18 PM)devotedknuckles Wrote: Credo if u have evedence to show he was not a mason then by all means
Petertherock its not ridiculous. A black mass could be valid. The priest offering such a mass could have the proper intent
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One can't prove someone's *not* a mason. That's like asking to prove someone's not an alien. The person making the positive claim has to back it up.
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(11-28-2009, 11:25 AM)NonSumDignus Wrote: To do a real comparison between the NO and the Tridentine, one has to compare both at their "best". Which would mean a Novus Ordo in Latin with a full choir, ad orientem, Communion kneeling, etc. And a Tridentine Solemn High Mass, which is pretty standard.

Hmm, I think most trads have never been to a solemn Tridentine Mass with deacon and subdeacon, unfortunately. It's certainly not a standard parish experience, even if it's the norm on paper.
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No becauise how can one prove a person is in a secret society?
The person can admit it which by bugnins responses to questions it sure sounds like it or the masonic list of members could be found barring that its the same with the mob or anyother secret society oh yeah I forgot the mob doesn't exist
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