Are things getting better or worse in the Church?
#21
Baskerville Wrote:or worse start ordaining women and such. ugh.

That issue was settled by Jo. Paul II definitively about 20 years ago.
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#22
(12-26-2009, 02:36 AM)Petertherock Wrote: I say this with 100% absolute certainty...if a Pope ever starts ordaining women, I will officially be a Sede.

I say this with 100% absolute certainty...the situation you describe (a Pope ordaining women) wil never, ever happen.  Please stop proposing these situations that fly in the face of the dogma that the Church cannot fail. 
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#23
(12-26-2009, 01:12 PM)Bonifacius Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 02:36 AM)Petertherock Wrote: I say this with 100% absolute certainty...if a Pope ever starts ordaining women, I will officially be a Sede.

I say this with 100% absolute certainty...the situation you describe (a Pope ordaining women) wil never, ever happen.  Please stop proposing these situations that fly in the face of the dogma that the Church cannot fail. 

I wasn't the one that proposed the situation.

Didn't Our Lady of Fatima say that Rome would lose the Faith? I don't think she was talking about the city.

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#24
(12-26-2009, 01:31 PM)Petertherock Wrote: Didn't Our Lady of Fatima say that Rome would lose the Faith? I don't think she was talking about the city.

I think it was Our Lady of La Salette.
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#25
The other day my N.O. pastor said he's going to have to "break down and order a cassock."

Things are getting better.  :laughing:
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#26
(12-26-2009, 01:34 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:31 PM)Petertherock Wrote: Didn't Our Lady of Fatima say that Rome would lose the Faith? I don't think she was talking about the city.

I think it was Our Lady of La Salette.

OK my bad.

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#27
(12-26-2009, 01:54 PM)Petertherock Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:34 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:31 PM)Petertherock Wrote: Didn't Our Lady of Fatima say that Rome would lose the Faith? I don't think she was talking about the city.

I think it was Our Lady of La Salette.

OK my bad.

Regardless of the apparition, the message of Our Lady is worrying.
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#28
(12-26-2009, 01:55 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:54 PM)Petertherock Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:34 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:31 PM)Petertherock Wrote: Didn't Our Lady of Fatima say that Rome would lose the Faith? I don't think she was talking about the city.

I think it was Our Lady of La Salette.

OK my bad.

Regardless of the apparition, the message of Our Lady is worrying.

Agreed, Jesus also asked himself if he would find any faithful left when He returned.

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#29
(12-26-2009, 01:57 PM)Petertherock Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:55 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:54 PM)Petertherock Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:34 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(12-26-2009, 01:31 PM)Petertherock Wrote: Didn't Our Lady of Fatima say that Rome would lose the Faith? I don't think she was talking about the city.

I think it was Our Lady of La Salette.

OK my bad.

Regardless of the apparition, the message of Our Lady is worrying.

Agreed, Jesus also asked himself if he would find any faithful left when He returned.

True.

However, we also know and believe that the gates of Hell will not prevail. I believe that in the end only a small remnant of faithful will exist but this remnant must include at least a bishop, otherwise the Church would've disappeared and that cannot be.
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#30
Vetus Ordo Wrote:
Petertherock Wrote:
Vetus Ordo Wrote:
Petertherock Wrote:Didn't Our Lady of Fatima say that Rome would lose the Faith? I don't think she was talking about the city.
I think it was Our Lady of La Salette.
OK my bad.
Regardless of the apparition, the message of Our Lady is worrying.
The pamphlet that said that was put on the Index by Bl. Pius IX. It was/is not allowed to be believed by Catholics. Rome cannot lose the Faith which intrinsically Hers; it's Vatican I DOGMA.
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