Converted Catholics........
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(01-11-2010, 05:38 PM)Arun Wrote:
(01-11-2010, 03:48 AM)littlerose Wrote:
(01-11-2010, 03:13 AM)Arun Wrote: spam, canned ham.

um, so anyways. LDS shouldn;t be too hard to convert, once they are fully educated into things. They have no real apologetic, and adhere to no logical doctrines whatsoever.
Hindu to Catholic, that's a tricky one. My grandmother is a Hinduist but her brother was Catholic, and she seems to greatly respect the Faith.
Again, I guess it depends on certain things or whatever.
Its hard for anybody, really, to cnovert, because the simple facvt is you are going to have to trim the fat, be it friends or family or something else. But the Faith is so worth it!
I came from a protestant upbringing, but dabbled into all kinds of wierd and wacky stuff, including shamanism and various eastern stuff... mostly when i was reallyinto the doors lol.
lost all my old friends. haven't really made many new ones. but treasure don;t come for free. and the Faith was well worth the price.

Funny thing, I thought Glenn Beck was a warm-fuzzy N-O neocon catholic then found out he is Mormon... so I can see the similar characterisitcs, but I don't know about converting Mormon to Traditionalist, except maybe for the respect for formality...

I think I had similar experience to yours except I left the catholic Church in frustration after being jolted out of a Catholic Community that seemed to implode from VII politics and now I deeply appreciate the preparation the nuns gave us for the solitary life, monasticism, really, since I too have to say I have very few friends.

I am just beginning to find people around me who are also figuring out the  Big Lie that is secular culture, but they are not Catholic. One is just a generic American christian totally focussed on material security and the other comes from  country devout  pentecostal but likes Saint Therese and has no problem with  a lot of our believfs.

In the first case  the obstacle to conversion might be  an inability to take the spiritual soul-life seriously and in the other case intense family loyalty to the old country church would be the obstacle.

But who knows, right? ;)

Oh, yes, my point about the Mormons is that there is nothing in their religion to hold an intelligent, educated person's faith. It requires the constant suspension of intellect to function on a practical level. And it doesn't really have a theological level.

Therefore, as it is often rather easy to convince a man of intelligence of at least the fundamental logic side of the Faith, any intelligent men ensnared in the clutches of that particular heresy should be relatively easy to convince.

The problem is that the LDS church does an excellent job of placing so many things (like every aspect of your life, for example) between reason and faith that reason never really gets to take a good look at the faith.  My father is a very devout Mormon.  He is also a very intelligent and well-read man.  He is a critical thinker, sometimes to the extreme.  But he never shines that light on his LDS faith.  In fact, he thinks that his faith is perfectly reasonable.  His religion is too much of a foundation of his life and worldview for him to question it, especially now later in life.  The LDS church has got the whole 'cognitive dissonance' thing figured out and working well for them.

Pax vobiscum,
Jesse
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Converted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 11:38 AM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by anamchara - 01-01-2010, 11:53 AM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 12:28 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 12:50 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Vetus Ordo - 01-01-2010, 12:53 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 12:55 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Vetus Ordo - 01-01-2010, 12:58 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by BrevisVir55 - 01-01-2010, 01:00 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 01:09 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Vetus Ordo - 01-01-2010, 01:16 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Vetus Ordo - 01-01-2010, 01:25 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by BrevisVir55 - 01-01-2010, 01:28 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 01:32 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 01:34 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by littlerose - 01-01-2010, 01:53 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 02:50 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by JayneK - 01-01-2010, 03:04 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 03:09 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Jesse - 01-01-2010, 06:16 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 06:25 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by littlerose - 01-01-2010, 06:40 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 07:12 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by anamchara - 01-01-2010, 07:40 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by anamchara - 01-01-2010, 07:53 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 08:07 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by littlerose - 01-01-2010, 08:18 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 08:38 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 08:53 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Domini Canis - 01-01-2010, 09:03 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 09:39 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 09:43 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by littlerose - 01-01-2010, 09:56 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 09:57 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Domini Canis - 01-01-2010, 09:57 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 10:01 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Domini Canis - 01-01-2010, 10:05 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by JayneK - 01-01-2010, 10:19 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-01-2010, 10:32 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 10:37 PM
Re: Coverted Catholics........ - by Jesse - 01-01-2010, 10:40 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 10:45 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by libby - 01-01-2010, 10:57 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Domini Canis - 01-01-2010, 11:11 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 11:22 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 11:27 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Domini Canis - 01-01-2010, 11:31 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by alaric - 01-01-2010, 11:52 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-02-2010, 12:09 AM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Domini Canis - 01-02-2010, 08:00 AM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by littlerose - 01-02-2010, 04:41 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by littlerose - 01-02-2010, 10:49 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Domini Canis - 01-02-2010, 11:00 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Historian - 01-03-2010, 03:17 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by littlerose - 01-11-2010, 02:58 AM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Arun - 01-11-2010, 03:13 AM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by littlerose - 01-11-2010, 03:48 AM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Satori - 01-11-2010, 11:00 AM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Arun - 01-11-2010, 05:38 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Jesse - 01-11-2010, 07:13 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by amasimp - 01-11-2010, 07:14 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by Arun - 01-11-2010, 07:20 PM
Re: Converted Catholics........ - by amasimp - 01-11-2010, 07:26 PM



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