Pope Benedict: Why can't we all just get along?
#1
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment...973196.ece

In his first address of the new year Pope Benedict XVI today called for an end to discrimination against "those who are different", saying that children must be brought up to respect their fellow men as brothers rather than seeing them as enemies.

"Peace begins with a look of respect that recognises in another man's face a person, regardless of the colour of his skin, nationality, language or religion," the Pope said in his homily at New Year's Day Mass, held under rainy skies at St Peter's Basilica.

The Pope noted that schools often contained children of different national, ethnic and cultural backgrounds. The faces of the children in such schools were "a prophecy of the kind of humanity we are called upon to create: a family of families and peoples".

Children showed that all men were brothers because "despite differences, they cry and laugh the same way, have the same needs, communicate spontaneously, play together". He added: "It is important to be educated from an early age to respect the other, even when the other is different from us."

Related Links
'Good riddance to a gruelling decade'
Pope calls for 'sobriety and solidarity' in 2010
Pope Pius XII and the Italians who saved Jews from the Nazis
However, in conflict zones children were often "at the mercy of war and violence, their faces disfigured by pain and desperation", the pontiff said.

"Faced with their defenceless condition, all the false justifications for war and violence collapse. We simply must convert to a project of peace, laying down arms of all kinds and committing ourselves to build together a world more worthy of man."

The Pope was celebrating the New Year's Day Mass just over a week after Susanna Maiolo, a 25-year-old Swiss-Italian, jumped over barricades inside St Peter's Basilica on Christmas Eve and dragged the pontiff to the ground. Cardinal Roger Etchegaray of France, 87, suffered a broken leg in the melee.

The incident raised questions about the Pope's security, especially as Ms Maiolo had tried unsuccessfully to reach him during the same event the previous year. Vatican officials said that no legal action would be taken against her because she suffered from psychological problems, was unarmed and apparently intended no harm.

Last Sunday there was a visibly enhanced police presence when Pope Benedict left the Vatican to share a meal with homeless, poor and elderly people at a soup kitchen in Rome run by the Sant'Egidio Community, a lay Catholic group.

The Pope was unhurt in the Christmas Eve fall, and has a full schedule for 2010 in Italy and abroad. On January 17 he is due to make an historic visit to the Rome synagogue amid controversy over his moves to put Pope Pius XII on the path to sainthood despite protests from Jewish groups who argue that Pius failed to speak out against the Holocaust during the Second World War.

At Te Deum Vespers yesterday, the Pope drew attention to the world recession and the plight of families in economic difficulties, saying "the crisis is not yet over".

He also urged young men who felt they had a vocation "to not be afraid to respond to the call that the Lord makes to them to pursue the way of priesthood or the consecrated life".

Pope Benedict also marked the Catholic Church's World Peace Day for 2010 today with a message in which he renewed his call to protect the environment, saying that the degradation of man leads to the degradation of the planet. He urged people to adopt new lifestyles "marked by sobriety and solidarity" to promote peace in a troubled world.

"If you want to cultivate peace, protect creation," the Pope said. "It is becoming more and more evident that the issue of environmental degradation challenges us to examine our lifestyle and the prevailing models of consumption and production, which are often unsustainable from a social, environmental and even economic point of view."

He added: "Man’s inhumanity to man has given rise to numerous threats to peace and to authentic and integral human development – wars, international and regional conflicts, acts of terrorism, and violations of human rights."Yet no less troubling are the threats arising from the neglect – if not downright misuse – of the Earth and the natural goods that God has given us."

Humanity needed a profound cultural renewal, the Pope said. "Our present crises – be they economic, food-related, environmental or social – are ultimately also moral crises, and all of them are interrelated. They require us to rethink the path which we are travelling together.

"Specifically, they call for a lifestyle marked by sobriety and solidarity, with new rules and forms of engagement, one which focuses confidently and courageously on strategies that actually work, while decisively rejecting those that have failed."
Reply
#2
(01-01-2010, 11:43 PM)ggreg Wrote: "Faced with their defenceless condition, all the false justifications for war and violence collapse. We simply must convert to a project of peace, laying down arms of all kinds and committing ourselves to build together a world more worthy of man."

Wouldn't that world be the New Heaven and the New Earth after the apocalypse? Is it still a Catholic belief that this world is the kingdom of Satan? Man is sinful. How can he be "worth" anything but a world of strife and agony? I thought the point of our faith was that we AREN'T "worthy", but that God so loved us that he has saved us and invited us to take on Christ's nature (which IS worthy) anyway.

This entire article makes Catholicism seem like a form of pragmatism-- a system of morality we may harbor in order to make this world a better place-- rather than a spirituality whose purpose is to prepare us and help us get to eternity.

::sigh::  It's often these subtle inaccuracies in theology that irk me the most. Maybe it's because I know they are the most innocuous and seep into people's minds more.
Reply
#3
(01-02-2010, 02:57 AM)Sorcha Wrote:
(01-01-2010, 11:43 PM)ggreg Wrote: "Faced with their defenceless condition, all the false justifications for war and violence collapse. We simply must convert to a project of peace, laying down arms of all kinds and committing ourselves to build together a world more worthy of man."

Wouldn't that world be the New Heaven and the New Earth after the apocalypse? Is it still a Catholic belief that this world is the kingdom of Satan? Man is sinful. How can he be "worth" anything but a world of strife and agony? I thought the point of our faith was that we AREN'T "worthy", but that God so loved us that he has saved us and invited us to take on Christ's nature (which IS worthy) anyway.

This entire article makes Catholicism seem like a form of pragmatism-- a system of morality we may harbor in order to make this world a better place-- rather than a spirituality whose purpose is to prepare us and help us get to eternity.

::sigh::  It's often these subtle inaccuracies in theology that irk me the most. Maybe it's because I know they are the most innocuous and seep into people's minds more.

Yep its all about man now.
Reply
#4
(01-02-2010, 02:57 AM)Sorcha Wrote: This entire article makes Catholicism seem like a form of pragmatism-- a system of morality we may harbor in order to make this world a better place-- rather than a spirituality whose purpose is to prepare us and help us get to eternity.

IIs not loving our enemies prepares us to the eternity.

Matthew 5:
46 For if you love them that love you, what reward shall you have? do not even the publicans this?
Reply
#5
Well this talk by the holy father amounts to not much in the way of catholicism. If I didn't know better by the title and perhaps it would of been a good excersise to post this speach without saying who said it and it wqould scream humanism. Sad really
Peace on earth? Non discrimination? These are the pies in the skies for secular humanist and socialist et all u name it. But these are what wpould be termed a graveyard peace because peace as what the Holy Father just spoke about can only be found to that extend in Catholic confessiponal states. It can only be found on CHRIST!
Yes yes yes peace on eartjh flowers in youir hair pass the dope turn up the tunes dance have fund peace love rock n roll ok ok ok ok
What the hell does that have to do with CHRIST? The peace CHRIST promised is of a different sort.and yes gigas we r to pray and love our enemies but good God man fpor somepne whp suffered under the reds surely u must understand this doesn't negate resisting and fighting them.
Peace sip
Let's give peace a chance
Kombaya me lord kpmbaya adatada da da taata
See I feel better slready
The whole world in his hand stadatatataaataaa
I would like to give the world a coke...........
Reply
#6
Matthew 25:31-46.

The Holy Father is speaking about charity.  It is something rarely discussed on Fisheaters, but it is quite important to Our Lord.
Reply
#7
Ok if we ate going to woodpecker lip sacrewd scripture and post numbered passeges whithput any cpontext or comentary then give me a chnce to find a qoute to oppose ur qpute to qoite a qoute to support a qpoute
I qoute
Hold on
Reply
#8
(01-02-2010, 08:55 AM)glgas Wrote:
(01-02-2010, 02:57 AM)Sorcha Wrote: This entire article makes Catholicism seem like a form of pragmatism-- a system of morality we may harbor in order to make this world a better place-- rather than a spirituality whose purpose is to prepare us and help us get to eternity.

IIs not loving our enemies prepares us to the eternity.

Matthew 5:
46 For if you love them that love you, what reward shall you have? do not even the publicans this?


Yes, love your enemies...and be sure to kill them before they get you.
Reply
#9
(01-02-2010, 09:21 AM)devotedknuckles Wrote: Well this talk by the holy father amounts to not much in the way of catholicism. If I didn't know better by the title and perhaps it would of been a good excersise to post this speach without saying who said it and it wqould scream humanism. Sad really
Peace on earth? Non discrimination? These are the pies in the skies for secular humanist and socialist et all u name it. But these are what wpould be termed a graveyard peace because peace as what the Holy Father just spoke about can only be found to that extend in Catholic confessiponal states. It can only be found on CHRIST!
Yes yes yes peace on eartjh flowers in youir hair pass the dope turn up the tunes dance have fund peace love rock n roll ok ok ok ok
What the hell does that have to do with CHRIST? The peace CHRIST promised is of a different sort.and yes gigas we r to pray and love our enemies but good God man fpor somepne whp suffered under the reds surely u must understand this doesn't negate resisting and fighting them.
Peace sip
Let's give peace a chance
Kombaya me lord kpmbaya adatada da da taata
See I feel better slready
The whole world in his hand stadatatataaataaa
I would like to give the world a coke...........

I think this is your longest post ever....that is some mean BlackBerry typin'.........
Reply
#10
(01-02-2010, 10:09 AM)devotedknuckles Wrote: Ok if we ate going to woodpecker lip sacrewd scripture and post numbered passeges whithput any cpontext or comentary then give me a chnce to find a qoute to oppose ur qpute to qoite a qoute to support a qpoute
I qoute
Hold on

Actually, a more (quote) accurate context for Holy Father's original article, which the source has skewed, even going so far as to thoroughly misquote the title, would be: "Between 1914 and 1968, five popes wrote 21 encyclicals on peace. Since 1968, papal teaching on peace has primarily been expressed in the messages for the World Day of Peace." To imagine that which passes all understanding has been deviated from, would render Holy Father's opponents beyond pathetic. Pax Christe'
Reply




Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)