Moving toward the Unity
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(01-12-2010, 07:23 PM)QuisUtDeus Wrote: glgas, in my opinion, you're a libreal.  Just like most liberals and modernists, you put Vatican II above anything that came before it.  You misuse "separated brethren", and, quite frankly you speak out of both sides of your mouth.

There were significant changes in the 20th Century. Before that at least in the Catholic Countries, or Catholic Communities (as villages, ecen counties or states) the Church had real ruling power, the Church had influence about the distribution of the information and the rules what involved the community (e.g. related to the schools).

During the 20th Century this essentially changed. Everywhere, regardless of the majority, godless forces took over the power, they distribute the information (media) they make the decision about the rules involving the communities (e.g. the religuion and morality is excluded from the schools and public life).

In the previous situation this was expedient to concentrate on the heresy and errors, in some way they were under the influence of the Church. For today this influence disappeared, so when you judge them, you judge ones who are outside of our influence, about whom the judgment belongs to Jesus Christ and to the end of the world.

Think it over. This Anglican community is praying reverently. The prayer has its grace calling power, so by the grace of the Holy Spirit they can get a new rector, or their rector may change his mind and they can be united with the true Church. What is the reason to declare them heretics, and what is the reason to denounce Vatican II which understood that the world was changed, and other aspects of the truth shall be emphasized, than the ones emphasized for our forefathers.

We never had the knowledge of God, newer saw the full truth in its entirety, only a segment of it. In the time of Leo XIII it may have some advantage to look for the Anglicans as heretics, the Church was still powerfull in worldly matter too. Today we need any help againt the enemy what we can get from good people, so it is more useful to call the other side of the picture: they are our brethren in Christ.

If you do not understand, I am sorry. This is not moral relativism, only that acknowledgment that our knowledge (even about the mores) is limited/partial, so time to time other aspect of the same rules should be emphasized.

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Moving toward the Unity - by glgas - 01-11-2010, 07:41 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by Baskerville - 01-11-2010, 08:09 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by tradmaverick - 01-11-2010, 09:02 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by devotedknuckles - 01-11-2010, 09:11 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by BrevisVir55 - 01-11-2010, 09:17 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by glgas - 01-11-2010, 09:29 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by glgas - 01-11-2010, 09:34 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by Bonifacius - 01-11-2010, 09:37 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by franklinf - 01-11-2010, 09:48 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by Baskerville - 01-11-2010, 10:14 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by ImpyTerwilliger - 01-12-2010, 07:22 AM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by ImpyTerwilliger - 01-12-2010, 07:30 AM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by glgas - 01-12-2010, 08:54 AM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by devotedknuckles - 01-12-2010, 09:40 AM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by franklinf - 01-12-2010, 09:44 AM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by glgas - 01-12-2010, 10:05 AM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by devotedknuckles - 01-12-2010, 10:59 AM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by CrusaderKing - 01-12-2010, 11:44 AM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by devotedknuckles - 01-12-2010, 11:46 AM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by Historian - 01-12-2010, 12:52 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by glgas - 01-12-2010, 01:46 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by Historian - 01-12-2010, 07:23 PM
Re: Moving toward the Unity - by glgas - 01-13-2010, 11:02 AM



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