Pius XII miracle investigated?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...racle.html
Quote:An unnamed man in Castellammare di Stabia in the south of Italy has claimed he was inexplicably healed from incurable prostate cancer after he prayed to the wartime pope. After examining the patient's medical records the Vatican has asked the Archbishop of Sorrento, Felice Cece, to set up a diocesan tribunal to investigate the claims further.

If the Vatican ultimately approves a miracle the way will be clear for the beatification of Pius, after which he will be declared "Blessed".

A further miracle will be needed to canonise the Pope as a saint.

Such a move, ahead of the opening of the Vatican's wartime archives in 2013, will be hugely controversial, however, because historians remain divided about whether Pius did enough to save European Jews from the Holocaust.

On Sunday, Riccardo Pacifici, the president of Rome's Jewish community, told Pope Benedict XVI during his visit to Rome's synagogue that "the silence of Pius XII before the Shoah still hurts because something should have been done".

However other Jews, such as Sir Martin Gilbert, the British historian and the world's leading expert on the Holocaust, claim that Pius should be considered "a Righteous Gentile" because he quietly saved thousands of lives by hiding Jews in the monasteries and convents of Rome.
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Sir Martin Gilbert  (mentioned in article above)

ZE03022004 - 2003-02-20
http://www.zenit.org/article-6593?l=english
Historian Sir Martin Gilbert Defends Pius XII

ROME, FEB. 20, 2003 (Zenit.org).- Sir Martin Gilbert, considered one of the greatest living historians, praised Pope Pius XII's efforts on behalf of the Jews throughout World War II.

In an interview broadcast Feb. 2 on C-Span, Gilbert was asked if Pope Eugenio Pacelli was passive in face of Nazism.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/174865-1
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Wait a minute.  i read years ago, in an article in our archdiocesan newspaper, that the archives relating to Pius XII had been opened and the head archivist said he had been surprised that after years of people complaining about lack of access to the archives, that nobody had shown up to do research, only to walk around a bit like tourists. 

you know, john cornwell, garry willis, dan brown, people like that hadn't come in to look at the historic documents to research their next book.  what a surprise.  ::) ::) ::)

perhaps they still have papers to add to the archives and they expect to have all the archival work done by 2013.  the complainers never seemed to understand what archiving is all about, seemed to think the Vatican should just allow people to go in and rummage through boxes of papers and trust them to put them back in the right order.


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There are constantly working on the cataloging and electronic archiving of all the archives.

Here you can check what is available now

http://asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm


(01-20-2010, 09:31 AM)i.p.i. Wrote: Wait a minute.  i read years ago, in an article in our archdiocesan newspaper, that the archives relating to Pius XII had been opened and the head archivist said he had been surprised that after years of people complaining about lack of access to the archives, that nobody had shown up to do research, only to walk around a bit like tourists. 

you know, john cornwell, garry willis, dan brown, people like that hadn't come in to look at the historic documents to research their next book.  what a surprise.   ::) ::) ::)

perhaps they still have papers to add to the archives and they expect to have all the archival work done by 2013.  the complainers never seemed to understand what archiving is all about, seemed to think the Vatican should just allow people to go in and rummage through boxes of papers and trust them to put them back in the right order.
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http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/details_of_possible_pius_xii_miracle_emerge/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+catholicnewsagency/dailynews+

Quote:Rome, Italy, Jan 19, 2010 / 12:21 pm (CNA).- Some details of the case under investigation regarding a possible miracle attributed to Venerable Pope Pius XII have been made public.  The story features not just one former Pontiff, but two.

On Tuesday morning, Vatican journalist Andrea Tornielli published an article in Il Giornale describing at length the situation which "mysteriously involves" John Paul II.

Tornielli reported that this case was brought to the attention of Benedict XVI shortly before he approved a measure on Dec. 19, 2009 venerating Pope Pius XII's life of "heroic virtue," whose cause had been on-hold for the previous two years.

In 2005, a teacher of 31 years of age was expecting her third child in the city of Castellammare di Stabia.  She began to have strong pains, which after many tests and a biopsy, signaled the presence of Burkitt's lymphoma.  The condition is typified by swollen lymph nodes, often starting in the abdominal region, and the cancer can spread to bone marrow and spinal fluid.  Not only was her health in danger, but that of her unborn child was also threatened.

The woman's husband first prayed for the intercession Pope John Paul II, who was then only recently buried in the crypt of St. Peter's.  It wasn't long before the Holy Father appeared to the woman's husband in a dream.  The spouse described to Tornielli what he saw that night, "He had a serious face.  He said to me, 'I can't do anything, you must pray to this other priest...'  He showed me the image of a thin, tall, lean priest.  I didn't recognize him; I didn't know who he might be." 

Several days passed before he, "by chance," came across a picture of Pope Pius XII in a magazine and recognized him as the man John Paul II had shown him in the dream.

The man wasted no time in bombarding Pius XII with prayers for his wife's healing and following her very first treatments she was declared free of the cancer, the tumor had disappeared.  In fact, she was cured so quickly that her doctors pondered the notion that they may have originally misdiagnosed the pathology.

The tests and charts were reconsulted and the initial diagnosis was confirmed.

In the absence of the tumor, she had her baby and returned to work.  After some time had gone by, she decided to contact the Vatican regarding her experience.

A local news source, the Sorrento & Dintorni, ran an article on Sunday offering a basic story of the possible miracle and the diocesan response to it.  According to their report, a Tribunal has been organized by Archbishop Felice Cece of Sorrento-Castellammare to determine the nature of the occurrence and whether it will move on to the Vatican.

According to Tornielli, if they decide positively, the case will be sent on to Congregation for the Causes of Saints for investigation by a team of doctors to declare whether the event was explicable by natural means.  If there is no explanation found for the healing, theologians from the Congregation will debate the issue.  Only with their "go-ahead" can a dossier subsequently reach the hands of Pope Benedict XVI for official recognition.

Cardinal Jose Saraiva Martins, Prefect Emeritus of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, told CNA on Monday that there is no telling how much time the entire process might take.

He also mentioned that if a case arrives to the Congregation for the Causes of Saints it is examined in chronological order based on the date of arrival and there are thousands of cases pending review. 

However, he added, "exceptions might be made for Popes, etc."

There was no mention in Tornielli's report of where the lymphoma had manifested itself in the woman's body.  According to the National Institute of Health, Burkitt's lymphoma is treatable and more than half of those diagnosed with the cancer are cured with intensive chemotherapy.
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(01-20-2010, 09:54 AM)glgas Wrote: There are constantly working on the cataloging and electronic archiving of all the archives.

Here you can check what is available now

http://asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm

thanks, i'll do that. 

Deo volente, if the unusually rapid healing of the pregnant woman's Burkitt's lymphoma is declared a miracle, we may see Pius XII beatified by the time the archives are complete in 2013.  the 'hitler's pope' liars will go berserk.  ;D


(01-20-2010, 09:31 AM)i.p.i. Wrote: Wait a minute.  i read years ago, in an article in our archdiocesan newspaper, that the archives relating to Pius XII had been opened and the head archivist said he had been surprised that after years of people complaining about lack of access to the archives, that nobody had shown up to do research, only to walk around a bit like tourists. 

you know, john cornwell, garry willis, dan brown, people like that hadn't come in to look at the historic documents to research their next book.  what a surprise.   ::) ::) ::)

perhaps they still have papers to add to the archives and they expect to have all the archival work done by 2013.  the complainers never seemed to understand what archiving is all about, seemed to think the Vatican should just allow people to go in and rummage through boxes of papers and trust them to put them back in the right order.
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