03-05-2011, 05:34 PM
(03-05-2011, 05:00 PM)Zakhur Wrote:(03-03-2011, 10:09 PM)Zakhur Wrote: Maybe I should start another thread for this? I'm not even sure it belongs in "Theological Debate."
Never mind.
Before I respond more fully to INPEFESS, I should re-present the problem that I think induced the OP to start this thread.
The following is a transliterated quote from Leibniz. This re-presents the problem in terms of human freedom and divine knowledge.
Quote:We all agree that God knows all things, and that the •future is •present to him just as the •past is. I couldn’t move my arm now without his having foreseen it from all eternity. He knows whether I will commit a murder, a crime, or some other sin. And since his foresight is infallible [here = ‘bound to be correct’], it is infallible that I will commit the sin that he has foreseen. So it is necessary that I will sin. and it is not within my power not to. So I am not free.
Okay, very good; we understand each other.
I would suggest starting a new thread devoted specifically to the problem of the (usual) metaphysical approach employed by many apologists, including Rumble and Carty. Please provide a link in this thread when you do; I am interested in following it.