Post V2 Catholic Evangelization
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Quote: The point being, could it be possible that the collapse of the Church in the West is due to factors beyond Vatican II?
 I agree somewhat.  As a Feenyite, I believe in the following seqence:
1.  Rejection of EENS.
2.  Launch of a neo-Pelagianism.
3.  Since man saves himself by being "good", dignity of man overemphasized.
4.  Rejection of Augustine.  The Earthly City is not the City of the Devil.  Build heaven on Earth.
5.  Vatican II hijacked.  Church's natural defense muted after the rejection of EENS.

However, Vatican II unleashed the evil forces that had been lying dormant.  And of course the N.O. is a horror show.  They were the instruments, but the crisis in faith with the denial of EENS is the root cause.

But getting back to the topic, the Post V2 Church has lost hundreds of millions of souls, and a hollow Church with a farce of a Mass (go to one in any Latin American parish and you will literally puke) is the cause.
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Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-16-2010, 08:42 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by glgas - 03-16-2010, 08:57 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Nic - 03-16-2010, 10:09 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-17-2010, 06:12 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by glgas - 03-17-2010, 07:12 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-17-2010, 08:07 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-17-2010, 08:14 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-17-2010, 05:50 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-17-2010, 10:13 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-17-2010, 10:15 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-21-2010, 07:56 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-21-2010, 08:03 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-21-2010, 08:16 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-21-2010, 08:55 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-21-2010, 09:03 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-21-2010, 09:06 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-21-2010, 11:08 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-22-2010, 12:07 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Nic - 03-22-2010, 12:14 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Nic - 03-22-2010, 12:27 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by sheep101 - 03-22-2010, 01:18 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-22-2010, 06:18 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-22-2010, 09:34 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-22-2010, 02:17 PM



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