Post V2 Catholic Evangelization
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(03-21-2010, 11:08 PM)Credo Wrote:
franklinf Wrote:You're right, V2 didn't introduce the problems in the Church. What it did was tear down the defenses.

I think the above statement is substantive, but for different reasons than you might guess.

The problem lay in the Catholic world in general, and especially in the United States. The "ghetto mentality" which rightly or wrongly characterized Catholicism in the 1920s, '30s, '40s and '50s produced generations of Catholics who were quite cozy in their faith, thank-you very much. However, the same Catholics were so sheltered and unfamiliar with the outside world, so cut-off from the intellectual and philosophical debates of the age, that when confronted with - forgive me - real life, Catholics were totally unprepared.

You were alive then, right?  I wasn't, so I wouldn't make this assumption.  But I know my parents were, and they were not naive and unprepared intellectually, philosophically, or otherwise.  What they were unprepared for was V2 and the fallout from that.

Quote:I travel quite heavily in traditionalist circles and I see the same problems looming for the children of such folk. Kids are so drilled in coughing up Baltimore Catechism answers, to the negligence of critical thinking, that I would not be supprised to see the same unraveling in traditionalists circles in the next few decades as we saw in the larger Church fifty years ago.

So, children are supposed to dissect the Summa?

I thought we learned our lesson about dissing rote learning in this country.  Remember "New Math"?  That was "critical thinking" and we have a bunch of mathematical retards now.  Memorize your times tables before you try algebraic equations.  One can't think critically with no grounding to push off against.  If one doesn't know the stuff in the Catechism, deeper theology will escape them.

Quote:Because we are so drilled with concepts of the Church as a monolithic institution, I wonder if we Catholic parents, teachers, and neighbors neglect the beam in our own eye in our search for institutional scapegoats over there (i.e.: Vatican II, liberalism)?

Why do you even hang out at this forum?  Wouldn't you be happier at CAF or something?
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Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-16-2010, 08:42 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by glgas - 03-16-2010, 08:57 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Nic - 03-16-2010, 10:09 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-17-2010, 06:12 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by glgas - 03-17-2010, 07:12 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-17-2010, 08:07 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-17-2010, 08:14 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-17-2010, 05:50 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-17-2010, 10:13 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-17-2010, 10:15 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-21-2010, 07:56 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-21-2010, 08:03 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-21-2010, 08:16 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-21-2010, 08:55 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-21-2010, 09:03 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-21-2010, 09:06 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-21-2010, 11:08 PM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by James02 - 03-22-2010, 12:07 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Nic - 03-22-2010, 12:14 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Nic - 03-22-2010, 12:27 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by sheep101 - 03-22-2010, 01:18 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Historian - 03-22-2010, 03:08 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-22-2010, 06:18 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Ockham - 03-22-2010, 09:34 AM
Re: Post V2 Catholic Evangelization - by Credo - 03-22-2010, 02:17 PM



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