Divine Mercy Sunday
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(04-12-2010, 12:59 AM)James02 Wrote: Compare the Our Father bead of the chaplet with this from Fatima:

I offer you the most precious Body and Blood, soul and Divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ, present in all the tabernacles of the world, in reparation for all the outrages committed against it.

Seems like the chaplet is legitimate.  I doubt Sr. Faustina was aware of this prayer at that time.


hold on now.  the Fatima apparitions were in 1917. 

"In 1934, Saint Faustina was told by her confessor, Fr. Sopocko, to write everything in a diary of her interior experiences with Jesus. Fr Sopocko did not have the time to listen to these lengthy confessions of Saint Faustina."  (from the site mentioned in my previous post)

why would Sr. Faustina not be aware of the Fatima prayers from 1917 by 1934? 

she would surely have been aware of this prayer of St. Gertrude the Great (11th-12th century), which is said on the small beads in the Chaplet of St. Gertrude: 

"Eternal Father, I offer Thee the Most Precious Blood Of Thy Divine Son, Jesus, in union with the Masses said throughout the world today, for all the holy souls in Purgatory, for sinners everywhere, for sinners in the Universal Church, those in my own home and within my own family. Amen."

this is the prayer you mention from the Our Father bead in the Divine Mercy chaplet: 

"Eternal Father, I offer you the body and blood, soul and divinity of your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world; for the sake of His sorrowful passion, have mercy on us and on the whole world."

this is the prayer said on the first Pater of the Sacred Heart Chaplet:

"O Eternal Father, I offer Thee the Blood, Passion and death of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the sorrows of Our Blessed Lady and St. Joseph in reparation for my sins, in suffrage for the souls in Purgatory, for the wants of our Holy Church, and for the conversion of sinners."

the popes who suppressed the Divine Mercy devotion and Sr. Faustina's diary thought it was too similar to other devotions, particularly the Sacred Heart devotion, which dates back to the 11th or 12th century, and was established by St. Bernard of Clairvaux, Doctor of the Church, and St. Gertrude.  In the latter half of the seventeenth century that news of three private revelations to St. Margaret Mary Alocoque concerning the Sacred Heart swept the Catholic world and shortly led to the establishment of a feast on the Friday after the Octave of Corpus Christi (the Friday after the Second Sunday after Pentecost).  The Feast of the Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, which was extended to the Universal Church by Pope Pius IX in 1856, became a feast of atonement for
human ingratitude toward God in spite of the supreme sacrifice of Calvary.  The theme for the new Mass and the Divine Office was taken from the words of Our Lord to St. Margaret Mary:  "Behold the Heart which has loved men so greatly, but which has been given so little love in return."


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