How to convert her??
(04-23-2010, 10:11 PM)Iolanthe Wrote:
(04-23-2010, 09:29 PM)Augstine Baker Wrote:
Quote: You really can't compare non-Catholic boys with traditional Catholics, especially ones who mostly went to trad schools or were home-schooled. I'm not saying I disagree with you, but there's a world of difference between the two.

If that were true, you wouldn't have to worry so much about their income potential, which is increasingly undercut since education and increasingly, employment opportunities tend to favor women.

I'm not sure I'm following you here. My point is that boys in traditional Catholic schools might suffer a disadvantage which is different from ones in public schools: namely, their parents don't prepare them to survive in the real world. Whether or not they face discrimination in the workplace is irrelevent because in many cases they lack the education for a lucrative career, anyway. Boys in public schools who are taught ideologies and liberalism are beside the point, because that's not who we're discussing.

And my other point was that I don't think women have as many advantages as you think. I'm a little tired of this "let's blame spoiled women for all our problems" type rant. Guess what: I'm in the workplace, too, and it's not any easier for me than guys my age, Catholic or not.

Edited to add: I didn't read the whole article, but I will get around to it, and I'm curious why you think boys are less motivated than girls? Because I noticed the exact same thing at my trad highschool. The boys goofed off while many of the girls (myself included) prepared for college. However, it certainly wasn't my fault that they were goofing off.

Boys, whether they're traditional or not have to swim in the same polluted ocean, and it's an ocean polluted by modernity with all that entails, even traditional boys have to deal with the scourge of feminism, and they'll be likely fairly confused about it.

There is a apparently a lot of divorce even at the chapel, so the modern problems with boys aren't going to be TOO appreciably different from the global experience of boys in general, getting swept under the rug.

Btw, If women are doing significantly better in school, they're going to enjoy better salaries as a result of better education and increasingly males are finding themselves outside of that cycle and working menial jobs or, if they're motivated, starting businesses.  It might be true that men excel in the maths, sciences and engineering, but women are becoming increasingly prominent in business, sales and other traditionally male-dominated areas.  Unfortunately, for most modern "families", the wives are not at the household... they're following a carreer.

Of course, I think I agree with you about traditional boys not getting educated, but it's harder to say because Ithink the traditional world is much wider than chapels and homeschool communiities.  I did once hear an SSPX guy complain about homeschooling, but then, Harvard wants homeschool kids. But I'm guessing that a lot of traditional kids tend to avoid college, partly because, they're concentrated in areas which don't provide many opportunities for education, like St. Mary's in Kansas as ggreg pointed out above.

Anyhow, I've heard the complaint that traditional kids aren't too keen on professional development, but I can't really think of anyone off hand that would be applicable to.  Not a lot of experience of exclusively trad villages here.

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How to convert her?? - by crusaderfortruth3372 - 04-20-2010, 04:36 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Historian - 04-20-2010, 04:38 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by HotRod - 04-20-2010, 04:48 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by The_Harlequin_King - 04-20-2010, 04:53 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Historian - 04-20-2010, 04:58 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by cgraye - 04-20-2010, 05:10 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by cgraye - 04-20-2010, 05:22 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Walty - 04-20-2010, 05:27 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Historian - 04-20-2010, 05:36 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-20-2010, 05:37 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by JayneK - 04-20-2010, 05:45 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Historian - 04-20-2010, 06:02 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by HotRod - 04-20-2010, 06:39 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Historian - 04-20-2010, 06:58 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-20-2010, 07:09 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-20-2010, 07:16 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by HotRod - 04-20-2010, 07:42 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Mhoram - 04-20-2010, 07:50 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by TraceG - 04-20-2010, 07:55 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-20-2010, 08:00 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-20-2010, 08:11 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by MagisterMusicae - 04-20-2010, 08:35 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-20-2010, 08:42 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by JayneK - 04-20-2010, 08:49 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by MagisterMusicae - 04-20-2010, 09:44 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by MagisterMusicae - 04-21-2010, 02:50 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by ggreg - 04-21-2010, 06:04 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Mhoram - 04-21-2010, 10:31 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-21-2010, 10:41 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-21-2010, 10:44 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by CollegeCatholic - 04-21-2010, 11:17 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by The_Harlequin_King - 04-21-2010, 12:48 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by amasimp - 04-21-2010, 01:21 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-21-2010, 01:35 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by amasimp - 04-21-2010, 01:42 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by CollegeCatholic - 04-21-2010, 02:39 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-21-2010, 03:25 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-21-2010, 05:48 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Dust - 04-21-2010, 10:26 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Baskerville - 04-21-2010, 10:32 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Baskerville - 04-21-2010, 10:36 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by ggreg - 04-22-2010, 11:48 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by ggreg - 04-22-2010, 11:49 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-22-2010, 12:00 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-22-2010, 12:35 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-22-2010, 12:44 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Mhoram - 04-22-2010, 02:18 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-22-2010, 02:47 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-22-2010, 03:03 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-22-2010, 03:04 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-22-2010, 03:21 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-22-2010, 04:04 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-22-2010, 04:08 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by HotRod - 04-22-2010, 04:10 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Bonifacius - 04-22-2010, 04:23 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by ggreg - 04-22-2010, 05:12 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by amasimp - 04-22-2010, 05:18 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-22-2010, 05:31 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-22-2010, 05:45 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-22-2010, 05:54 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-22-2010, 05:59 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by The_Harlequin_King - 04-22-2010, 06:00 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-22-2010, 06:38 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by HotRod - 04-22-2010, 08:09 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by ggreg - 04-23-2010, 08:03 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by HotRod - 04-23-2010, 09:12 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by ggreg - 04-23-2010, 11:43 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-23-2010, 11:59 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Augstine Baker - 04-23-2010, 12:15 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-23-2010, 12:42 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Augstine Baker - 04-23-2010, 02:17 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-23-2010, 03:06 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Vetus Ordo - 04-23-2010, 03:09 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Historian - 04-23-2010, 03:09 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Vetus Ordo - 04-23-2010, 03:24 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-23-2010, 03:38 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by CollegeCatholic - 04-23-2010, 03:41 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by amasimp - 04-23-2010, 03:46 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by James02 - 04-23-2010, 04:20 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Mhoram - 04-23-2010, 04:31 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Augstine Baker - 04-23-2010, 04:35 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by amasimp - 04-23-2010, 04:37 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Historian - 04-23-2010, 04:38 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Historian - 04-23-2010, 04:41 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-23-2010, 08:24 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Augstine Baker - 04-23-2010, 09:29 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-23-2010, 10:11 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Satori - 04-23-2010, 11:33 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by CollegeCatholic - 04-24-2010, 01:07 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by CollegeCatholic - 04-24-2010, 01:12 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Augstine Baker - 04-24-2010, 01:31 AM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-24-2010, 03:12 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Augstine Baker - 04-26-2010, 06:45 PM
Re: How to convert her?? - by Iolanthe - 04-26-2010, 09:06 PM



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