illegal immigration and you.
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While I do not doubt that there are alot of hard working illegals (I have seen them - such as the highly nomadic Mexican construction types), I simply think the numbers are getting too high.  Alot of the little towns in the southwest are overwhelmed; eventually it hurts the quality of life.  When I was younger I lived in a small southern California city.  Very peaceful and quiet then; it's now a street gang war zone, and most of the gangs are swarming with illegals.

I also have a problem with the culture of Mexico.  Things like banditry and socialism are celebrated over there, and many bring this mindset with them.  I often see their Catholicism used as a vehicle for nationalism instead of actual faith (example - the pro-immigration rallies that have alot of Our Lady of Guadalupes, but no crosses). James02 is correct;  they are often more celebratory of their pagan history instead of their Christian history.

(Before anyone excuse me of being anti-Mexican,  I am partly of Mexican descent - my grandmother's family fled from the Marxist-Masonic 'revolution')

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In the spirit of full disclosure, while I am against illegal immigration, my mother crossed the border in '74. As a consequence I was born here and am a U.S. citizen. My parents are now citizens due to Reagan's amnesty in the 80's which made them legal residents. I thank God my Mom came here to the United States even though it was illegal. I know I am biased about that because I benefited from it. Illegal immigration was not that big and as dangerous in the 70's and very early 80's. It became a huge problem that had to be stopped from the 90's onward.   

(04-21-2010, 01:36 PM)Robert De Brus Wrote: I also have a problem with the culture of Mexico.  Things like banditry and socialism are celebrated over there, and many bring this mindset with them.  I often see their Catholicism used as a vehicle for nationalism instead of actual faith (example - the pro-immigration rallies that have alot of Our Lady of Guadalupes, but no crosses).

That is true. There is a cultural problem among Mexicans. My family is Salvadoran and they have assimilated well into American life with many of my relatives who are U.S. citizens and speak English. My generation, including all my cousins, have grown up American. Central Americans are not as nationalistic as Mexicans. In fact, Central Americans and Mexicans are not that fond of each other. Mexicans are extremely nationalistic to the point of being fanatical. They cling to their culture and consider themselves Mexicans first above all else. They are so nationalistic, it is not uncommon for Mexicans to turn on their own national team in sports, and root for the foreigner instead, when their team plays poorly.

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(04-21-2010, 02:29 PM)SaintRafael Wrote: That is true. There is a cultural problem among Mexicans. My family is Salvadoran and they have assimilated well into American life with many of my relatives who are U.S. citizens and speak English. My generation, including all my cousins, have grown up American. Central Americans are not as nationalistic as Mexicans. In fact, Central Americans and Mexicans are not that fond of each other.

Yes, Ive always heard about the harshness of the Mexican border patrol, who go beyond even the sort of enforcement I'd like to see. Central Americans do seem a bit more humble, with no chip on their shoulders like the Mexicans.  I once dated a Guatemalan lady who was American in every way. Now that doesnt mean I want there to be large scale illegal immigration of either though, however.
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I wouldn't go that far cough after all M13 is a salvadorian monstrosity that does allow other latins in just sayin. Al saladore certainly has had its fair share of evil no doubt. I dunno. I actually love mexico. Spent years there. Its a great place. And I got married there. Sure its no walk or dance in the tulips and indeed it had gotten worse. But then again so has the states. As for mexican culture. Its a blast. And a misnomer. As mexican culture on the niorth differs considerably from that in the south or central for that matter. Just sayin.
Anyhooo
Viva le cristo rey!!!!
Give or take an accent
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Alos I must stress the bs of burs idea of banditry and socialism being lauded by mexicans while mexicans of varipous classes and stripes will laud one or another few would laud both. Obvipously the bandit and those who support them don't care much for the state while socialists and I've met my fair share in the federal district love and charish the state. In short the farther u get from the FD the less socialists you will bump into. My experience anyhoo. Chiapas and the zapitistas being their own weird thing. Just sayin
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(04-21-2010, 04:17 PM)devotedknuckles Wrote: I wouldn't go that far cough after all M13 is a salvadorian monstrosity that does allow other latins in just sayin. Al saladore certainly has had its fair share of evil no doubt. I dunno. I actually love mexico. Spent years there. Its a great place. And I got married there. Sure its no walk or dance in the tulips and indeed it had gotten worse. But then again so has the states. As for mexican culture. Its a blast. And a misnomer. As mexican culture on the niorth differs considerably from that in the south or central for that matter. Just sayin.
Anyhooo
Viva le cristo rey!!!!
Give or take an accent

I personally hold no ill will towards Mexicans, nor do i hate them. I admire and respect their culture. Most of my family's Salvadoran accent, slang, speech, and overall Spanish, has been Mexicanized as we have adopted many Mexican words due to being surrounded by Mexicans in Southern California. We have also adopted many of their food.

I generalized about the differences between Mexicans and Central Americans because they are real and it is true that Mexicans are more nationalistic. It is just a difference that exists. That doesn't mean I hate them. I find it quite sad that there exists such a rivalry and bitterness among Central Americans and Mexicans to the point of fighting and insults. I got no problem with some light hearted joking between us done in a good spirit of fun.

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(04-21-2010, 04:17 PM)devotedknuckles Wrote: I actually love mexico. Spent years there. Its a great place. And I got married there.

You said recently in another thread that your wife is Hungarian.  You married a Hungarian in Mexico?  ???

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#28
Yes me wife is a maygar and I took her to mexico to marry me and have the time o her life. Sip sip
Chi chi
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#29
People in my state say Mexicans are turning California into Mexico. What, you mean they're turning a protestant haven of liberalism and modernism into a Catholic country? I fail to see the problem.
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(04-21-2010, 05:28 PM)devotedknuckles Wrote: Yes me wife is a maygar and I took her to mexico to marry me and have the time o her life. Sip sip
Chi chi

You're tres cosmo, dude!!!  :ciao:

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