What the Hell's wrong with the USCCB?: USCCB supports Kagan
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(05-20-2010, 01:34 PM)MedicMeyers Wrote: I'm not trying to get into evaluating Glenn Beck at all, however there is a fallacy of logic at play here. Just because a person (any person, I'm not focusing on Beck) has an agenda, has been proven wrong before, is an idiot, etc. does not mean that every statement that they make is false.

As an example, let's say I think Al Gore is completely wrong on global warming and that he is pushing the climate change agenda whenever he can. If I'm mowing the lawn outside sweating my butt off in 95 degree heat and he walks by and says "Gee, it sure is hot today." I certainly could not object. I might think he is being snarky or attempting to use this example to prove something else, but on it's face his statement is factual and cannot be dismissed based upon his stance on climate.

That having been said, a Catholic should probably not look to base his faith on the words of a Mormon. I would submit that Petertherock was probably not looking to Glenn Beck for spiritual guidance, but instead merely quoting something that he said. Something that I'm guessing many people on this forum would agree with.

Right, I am not going to Beck for spiritual guidance any more then I would go to Bishop Williamson for guidance on politics.

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(05-20-2010, 02:14 PM)Petertherock Wrote: Right, I am not going to Beck for spiritual guidance [snip]
I know, right? I don't see where anyone got that either.

I think the only thing in play here is that hair-trigger Beck-bashing is de rigueur. I haven't quite figured out why yet, but I'd like to.

Just my 2c.
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#33
I think the point here, and its a point well made, is that the problems in the Church are so obvious, that even Glen Beck has noticed the internal struggle.

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(05-20-2010, 02:26 PM)HotRod Wrote: I think the point here, and its a point well made, is that the problems in the Church are so obvious, that even Glen Beck has noticed the internal struggle.

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Yes. And it shows it's not just an internal Church problem, but part of a larger attack on mankind itself and God ultimately. Of course, we know who wins, we got a sneak peak at the script already, but that doesn't mean it won't be ugly before then.

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(05-20-2010, 02:26 PM)HotRod Wrote: I think the point here, and its a point well made, is that the problems in the Church are so obvious, that even Glen Beck has noticed the internal struggle.

Feel free to pray for me.

Very well put HotRod.
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(05-20-2010, 02:35 PM)MedicMeyers Wrote:
(05-20-2010, 02:26 PM)HotRod Wrote: I think the point here, and its a point well made, is that the problems in the Church are so obvious, that even Glen Beck has noticed the internal struggle.

Feel free to pray for me.

Very well put HotRod.

Amen....and I will take any prayers I can get.

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#37
I don't waste my time with Glenn Beck. He gets a lot of things right by exposing liberalism and progressivism, waking people up, and getting the socialists angry.
However, he is also a schill for the new world order who is part entertainer hacking his particular ideas, merchandise, and warped Americanist libertarian religion. He is a rabid partisan/ideologue who still retains some neocon ideology combining it with libertarian philosophy.

His solutions are all wrong and since the mainstream media like Fox News/Newscorp. is controlled by the satanic globalists and nwo,  it ensures the complete truth will never be spoken, though they give Beck a bigger leash than most on tv, so he can co-opt the movement and anger of Americans back on the sideshow and religion of American politics.  
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(05-20-2010, 02:54 PM)SaintRafael Wrote: I don't waste my time with Glenn Beck. He gets a lot of things right by exposing liberalism and progressivism, waking people up, and getting the socialists angry.
However, he is also a schill for the new world order who is part entertainer hacking his particular ideas, merchandise, and warped Americanist libertarian religion. He is a rabid partisan/ideologue who still retains some neocon ideology combining it with libertarian philosophy.

His solutions are all wrong and since the mainstream media like Fox News/Newscorp. is controlled by the satanic globalists and nwo,  it ensures the complete truth will never be spoken, though they give Beck a bigger leash than most on tv so he can co-opt the movement and anger of Americans back on the sideshow and religion of American politics.  

This is exactly what I meant, only you said it much better than I did. 

I think that nowadays especially, Catholics ought to think really carefully about who they align themselves with philosophically, especially if that person is throwing stones at Mother Church.  In the original post to which I replied, Petertherock said

"Glenn Beck is right. He said the radical left has infiltrated the Catholic Church. He said there is a battle within the Church (something that is not news to any of us) and the battle is between the progressives and the people who take their religion seriously. He said a lot of Bishops probably don't even know what's going on because they are so blind. It's kind of comical that a Mormon knows more about what's going on in the Church then it's leaders do."

I don't think that Glenn Beck knows more about what's going on in the Church than it's leaders do, and I don't think that progressives don't take their religion seriously, and I think that any Catholic who believes that needs prayers because they're in danger of Despair.  Do we have some bad leaders?  Yup.  Are they all bad?  Nope.  Do they know less about the Church than Glenn Beck?  As if.  And Catholics are free to align themselves politically with progressive causes as long as they don't violate Church doctrine, and doing so does not make someone "not serious" about their religion.  I know some progressives who attend TLM and abide by all Church teachings. 

Beck's not criticizing the Church out of love, and he's probably not even that well informed about it.    He's just using buzz words and pressing buttons to further his own ends which = ad revenue, book sales, etc.  Funny how to hear him tell it there's only one savior, and that's Glenn Beck.  I find it outrageous that people think this is OK.  Aren't you tired of being used?

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#39
Yep, and he always is pushing the Protestant freedom of religion stuff, and separation of Church and State.. If you listen closely he is saying Protestants are good and Catholics are bad. He thinks the founding documents were inspired by God and he says so. He is right about many things that are wrong but not many solutions. I watch him with one eye until he goes all Mormon on me, or he brings in Clyde Clodhopper theologian for the four burning pillars sect and American revolutionary war historian.You all know what is wrong and them there founding documents need to be re-written by a Catholic.
tim
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(05-20-2010, 04:24 PM)timoose Wrote: Yep, and he always is pushing the Protestant freedom of religion stuff, and separation of Church and State.. If you listen closely he is saying Protestants are good and Catholics are bad. He thinks the founding documents were inspired by God and he says so. He is right about many things that are wrong but not many solutions. I watch him with one eye until he goes all Mormon on me, or he brings in Clyde Clodhopper theologian for the four burning pillars sect and American revolutionary war historian.You all know what is wrong and them there founding documents need to be re-written by a Catholic.
tim

He is attacking the protestant churches just as much as the Catholics.

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