St.Padre Pio's Letter to Pope Paul VI
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San Giovanni Rotondo 
September 12, 1968   

Your Holiness,   

I unite myself with my brothers and present at your feet my affectionate respect, all my devotion to your august person in an act of faith, love and obedience to the dignity of him whom you are representing on this earth. The Capuchin Order has always been in the first line in love, fidelity, obedience and devotion to the Holy See; I pray to God that it may remain thus and continue in its tradition of religious seriousness and austerity, evangelical poverty and faithful observance of the Rule and Constitution, certainly renewing itself in the vitality and in the inner spirit, according to the guides of the Second Vatican Council, in order to be always ready to attend to the necessities of Mother Church under the rule of your Holiness.

I know that your heart is suffering much these days in the interest of the Church, for the peace of the world, for the innumerable necessities of the people of the world, but above all, for the lack of obedience of some, even Catholics, to the high teaching that you, assisted by the Holy Spirit and in the name of God, are giving us. I offer you my prayers and daily sufferings as a small but sincere contribution on the part of the least of your sons in order that God may give you comfort with his Grace to follow the straight and painful way in the defense of eternal truth, which never changes with the passing of the years. Also, in the name of my spiritual children and the Prayer Groups, I thank you for your clear and decisive words that you especially pronounced in the last encyclical "Humanae Vitae"; and I reaffirm my faith, my unconditional obedience to your illuminated directions.

May God grant victory to the truth, peace to his Church, tranquility to the world, health and prosperity to your Holiness so that, once these fleeting doubts are dissipated, the Kingdom of God may triumph in all hearts, guided by your apostolic work as Supreme Pastor of all Christianity.

Prostrate at your feet, I beg you to bless me in the company of my brothers in religion, my spiritual children, the Prayer Groups, my sick ones and also to bless all our good endeavours which we are trying to fulfill under your protection in the name of Jesus.

Humbly yours,           

P. Pio, Capuchin     
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Disclaimer:This is not to start a fight.Since I know many of you accept (Even if it is "To struggle" haha) Vatican II and Pope Paul Vi,This was just a interesting Letter I found of the Great Capuchin Saint.

Haha,I bet none of us would dare call St.Padre Pio anything close to Lax or heretical haha
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I don't know what the beef could be St. Padre Pio is everything a priest should be in regards Pope Paul VI.
tim
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Beautiful.  And I'm sure his "small but sincere" contribution was greater than most of us could have done combined.

St. Pio of Pietrelcina, pray for us.
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(07-23-2010, 02:04 PM)MeaMaximaCulpa Wrote: Beautiful.  And I'm sure his "small but sincere" contribution was greater than most of us could have done combined.

St. Pio of Pietrelcina, pray for us.

Truly

St.Pio,Ora pro nobis
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Two questions: 

1) Is this a real, authentic letter? 

2) Is there a translational issue at work here?  Because I don't see how anyone could believe that Paul VI was "giving us a teaching" guided by the Holy Ghost.  Reinforcing a teaching, clarifying a teaching, defining a teaching, all of those are fine but "giving us" a teaching ?  Nope. 


(07-23-2010, 12:01 PM)St.Ambrose Wrote: I know that your heart is suffering ... for the lack of obedience of some, even Catholics, to the high teaching that you, assisted by the Holy Spirit and in the name of God, are giving us.

I'm thinking that there must be something awkward in the translation.
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(07-23-2010, 05:16 PM)Gerard Wrote: Two questions: 

1) Is this a real, authentic letter? 

2) Is there a translational issue at work here?  Because I don't see how anyone could believe that Paul VI was "giving us a teaching" guided by the Holy Ghost.  Reinforcing a teaching, clarifying a teaching, defining a teaching, all of those are fine but "giving us" a teaching ?  Nope. 


(07-23-2010, 12:01 PM)St.Ambrose Wrote: I know that your heart is suffering ... for the lack of obedience of some, even Catholics, to the high teaching that you, assisted by the Holy Spirit and in the name of God, are giving us.

I'm thinking that there must be something awkward in the translation.

There is rumor that the entire letter is a forgery created for the purpose of mitigating the opposition to his teachings, but I don't know how much evidence there is to support that. You know how trustworthy some rumors can be...
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(07-23-2010, 05:16 PM)Gerard Wrote: Two questions: 

1) Is this a real, authentic letter? 

2) Is there a translational issue at work here?  Because I don't see how anyone could believe that Paul VI was "giving us a teaching" guided by the Holy Ghost.  Reinforcing a teaching, clarifying a teaching, defining a teaching, all of those are fine but "giving us" a teaching ?  Nope. 


(07-23-2010, 12:01 PM)St.Ambrose Wrote: I know that your heart is suffering ... for the lack of obedience of some, even Catholics, to the high teaching that you, assisted by the Holy Spirit and in the name of God, are giving us.

I'm thinking that there must be something awkward in the translation.

Well,It comes from many authentic sources

on translation:This is a phrasing,to give us,it has been used when refering to The Council of Nicea as "Giving us the teaching" Of the Trinity.It does not mean Teaching something new,but as you said "Clarify,inforce,define".

It's authentic.You can even find it on the EWTN website.Also many other websites,including the vatican.As many a good saints would say,let us humble ourselves.

Humility,Obedience and Charity
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(07-23-2010, 06:50 PM)St.Ambrose Wrote: You can even find it on the EWTN website.

EWTN website = Catholic Wikipedia. (I know, I know: "That's uncharitable, blah blah blah...")
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(07-23-2010, 07:49 PM)Lee Timmer Wrote:
(07-23-2010, 06:50 PM)St.Ambrose Wrote: You can even find it on the EWTN website.

EWTN website = Catholic Wikipedia. (I know, I know: "That's uncharitable, blah blah blah...")

Sure,but I said "You can EVEN find it" on EWTN,There are many more sources,In his offical writings and what not.They even have a copy in the vatican for example.

Many sources.I do not remember them,but you can find them easy.
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(07-23-2010, 08:30 PM)St.Ambrose Wrote:
(07-23-2010, 07:49 PM)Lee Timmer Wrote:
(07-23-2010, 06:50 PM)St.Ambrose Wrote: You can even find it on the EWTN website.

EWTN website = Catholic Wikipedia. (I know, I know: "That's uncharitable, blah blah blah...")

Sure,but I said "You can EVEN find it" on EWTN,There are many more sources,In his offical writings and what not.They even have a copy in the vatican for example.

Many sources.I do not remember them,but you can find them easy.

Oh, I know. I was just having a little fun because some people here seem to think EWTN is part of the Living Magisterium.
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