Is Christian Unity possible?
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(11-27-2010, 11:39 AM)SouthpawLink Wrote: May I be so bold as to say that next we'll be told not to seek the conversion of the Protestants? After all, they're already "members of Christ's body," and have "the life of grace; faith, hope and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit," and their sects have "significance and importance in the mystery of salvation" and are "means of salvation" (Vatican Council II, Unitatis Redintegratio, n. 3).

With all of that, what do they need us [the Catholic Church] for?  ???


P.S. - I ask the above question in all sincerity.

Indeed. I ask the same question in all sincerity.

"Actually only those are to be included as members of the Church who have been baptized and profess the true faith, and who have not been so unfortunate as to separate themselves from the unity of the Body, or been excluded by legitimate authority for grave faults committed." (Mystici Corporis Christi, no. 22)

"But even in spite of [these obstacles of doctrine, discipline, or ecclesiastical structure] it remains true that all who have been justified by faith in Baptism are members of Christ's body,(21) and have a right to be called Christian, and so are correctly accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church.(22)" (Unitatis Redintegratio, no. 3).

It here seems to imply that the Second Vatican Council did define something doctrinally new: that there is now a distinction between "Mystical Body of Christ" and "Body of Christ." It seems that the Body of Christ includes all who are "justified by faith in baptism," while the Mystical Body of Christ includes only those who also profess the Catholic Faith.

Again, this is why the question of "substitit in" is so controversial: what is the Church according to Vatican II?
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Is Christian Unity possible? - by AntoniusMaximus - 10-04-2010, 10:35 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Cetil - 10-04-2010, 10:52 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by glgas - 10-05-2010, 07:21 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 10-05-2010, 04:57 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Cyriacus - 10-06-2010, 12:02 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Lagrange - 10-06-2010, 05:47 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Lagrange - 10-06-2010, 05:53 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Exilenomore - 10-06-2010, 10:17 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 10-06-2010, 10:25 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by timoose - 10-06-2010, 12:25 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by 3Sanctus - 10-06-2010, 03:23 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by LatinGuy - 10-06-2010, 03:24 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Pomprincess - 10-07-2010, 07:42 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 10-07-2010, 07:54 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Pomprincess - 10-07-2010, 08:12 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 10-07-2010, 08:20 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Mixolydian - 11-19-2010, 05:29 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-19-2010, 09:18 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by LatinGuy - 11-19-2010, 09:20 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by timoose - 11-19-2010, 09:42 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-19-2010, 09:44 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by LatinGuy - 11-19-2010, 10:10 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-19-2010, 10:12 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Scipio_a - 11-19-2010, 11:39 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-19-2010, 11:41 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Scipio_a - 11-19-2010, 11:44 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-19-2010, 11:47 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Scipio_a - 11-19-2010, 11:51 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by icecream - 11-20-2010, 12:50 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Scipio_a - 11-20-2010, 12:53 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Historian - 11-20-2010, 02:07 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-20-2010, 11:07 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by icecream - 11-20-2010, 11:38 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Historian - 11-20-2010, 02:52 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Historian - 11-20-2010, 05:47 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Totterman - 11-21-2010, 05:48 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Historian - 11-21-2010, 04:50 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Historian - 11-25-2010, 10:23 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-25-2010, 02:12 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 02:17 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:10 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:22 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-27-2010, 12:38 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:46 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:48 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:52 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-27-2010, 12:58 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 02:58 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 03:01 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-27-2010, 03:17 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-28-2010, 12:05 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-28-2010, 01:49 AM



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