Is Christian Unity possible?
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(11-27-2010, 11:39 AM)SouthpawLink Wrote: Thank goodness Unitatis Redintegratio "overturned the narrow post-Tridentine Counter-Reformation outlook of the church" (PCPCU, The Decree on Ecumenism – Read Anew After Forty Years; 11 November 2004)!  ::)

Honestly, how do we reconcile this: "From this eschatological and spiritual perspective the goal of ecumenism cannot be described simply as 'the others’ returning to the fold of the Catholic Church" - with this - "The Catholic understanding of ecumenism ... includes unity in the faith, in the sacraments and in church ministry."

???  It is a fact that Protestants need to abjure their heresies and accept the Catholic Faith whole and entire, that Faith without which no man was ever justified.


*See also: "Non-Catholic Christians are therefore not outside of the one church, they already belong to it in a most fundamental way (LG, 11, 14; UR, 22)" (PCPCU, op. cit.).

http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_counc...io_en.html

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontif...sm_en.html

False ecumenism, feeding off the ambiguity of Vatican II, yet justifying itself with the "traditional interpretation" of Vatican II, is a sure means by which the dogmatic mutability of the Modernists can be brought about and actuated. Though this end has not yet been officially declared, pronounced, or taught, it is the sure means by which this end is accomplished. Perceiving the Church's teachings according to the principles of "modern thought" (as stated by John XXIII) is the very purpose of the Second Vatican Council.

It seems they are deluding themselves who insist that we must interpret these documents "in light of tradition." That is specifically contrary to the very intention of the teachings of this council. Nevertheless, the "traditional interpretation" is what we are told we must consider every time one of these novel implementations is contradicted by some aspect of Church teaching. The implementation of this ecumenical activity appeals to "modern thought" as the means by which this false ecumenical activity is justified, but, when Catholics object, the "traditional interpretation" is the justification of sorts that can look so good on paper when it cites magisterial teachings as its base.

It is brilliant, it is deceptive, and it is the language of the devil speaking in the Church.

I don't see how anyone with understanding of this method can assert that this is not the work of Modernism.
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Is Christian Unity possible? - by AntoniusMaximus - 10-04-2010, 10:35 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Cetil - 10-04-2010, 10:52 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by glgas - 10-05-2010, 07:21 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 10-05-2010, 04:57 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Cyriacus - 10-06-2010, 12:02 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Lagrange - 10-06-2010, 05:47 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Lagrange - 10-06-2010, 05:53 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Exilenomore - 10-06-2010, 10:17 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 10-06-2010, 10:25 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by timoose - 10-06-2010, 12:25 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by 3Sanctus - 10-06-2010, 03:23 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by LatinGuy - 10-06-2010, 03:24 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Pomprincess - 10-07-2010, 07:42 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 10-07-2010, 07:54 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Pomprincess - 10-07-2010, 08:12 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 10-07-2010, 08:20 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Mixolydian - 11-19-2010, 05:29 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-19-2010, 09:18 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by LatinGuy - 11-19-2010, 09:20 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by timoose - 11-19-2010, 09:42 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-19-2010, 09:44 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by LatinGuy - 11-19-2010, 10:10 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-19-2010, 10:12 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Scipio_a - 11-19-2010, 11:39 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-19-2010, 11:41 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Scipio_a - 11-19-2010, 11:44 PM
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Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by icecream - 11-20-2010, 12:50 AM
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Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Historian - 11-20-2010, 02:07 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-20-2010, 11:07 AM
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Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Totterman - 11-21-2010, 05:48 AM
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Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Historian - 11-25-2010, 10:23 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-25-2010, 02:12 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 02:17 AM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:10 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:22 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-27-2010, 12:38 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:46 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:48 PM
Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 12:52 PM
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Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by INPEFESS - 11-27-2010, 02:58 PM
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Re: Is Christian Unity possible? - by Vetus Ordo - 11-27-2010, 03:17 PM
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