Doubts about Newman's Beatification
(10-06-2010, 03:08 PM)3Sanctus Wrote:
(10-06-2010, 02:48 PM)Remegius Wrote: I was not referring to an inclination towards 'any' sin.

I was referring to the sin of Sodomy. The 1962 Missal lists this as a sin 'Crying out to heaven for vengeance'.

Scripture seems explicit enough.

"And the men of Sodom were very wicked, and sinners before the face of the Lord, beyond measure" Genesis 13:13.  Not to mention the destruction of the Sodomites, Genesis 19:24.

A sodomite and a homosexual are not the same thing.

Even if Card. Newman was homosexual (which I personally doubt, but I guess there's no real way to know) that doesn't mean he'd ever engaged in homosexual acts.

So someone who, through no fault of their own, has an inclination toward this sin and spends their entire life "working out [their] own salvation in fear and trembling" can't go to Heaven because of this involuntary inclination?

Obviously committing sodomy is serious, and must be dealt with, but:  1) sodomites can repent and 2) for something to be a sin it was to be something we choose (if a man is possessed and during the possession the demon uses his body for lewd acts that man has not committed those sins, they are not on his soul if he was not in control of his body - likewise, if someone doesn't chose to be tempted, but resist temptation, then they may [read, are capable of, at least theoretically] attaining sainthood).

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