My Archbishop
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(10-26-2010, 01:46 AM)HammerOfHeretics Wrote: I have great respect for my archbishop, Tim Dolan. I think he has done a good job for the archdiocese of new York so far, especially after cardinal Egan.

People in Milwaukee tell you that he did very, very little (possibly nothing) to unseat the entrenched unsavory element here.  'Don't rock the boat' seemed to be the motto.
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#32
He is rocking the NY Times that is a good start.

Bishop Brom... well, I guess the best thing I could say about him is that his Auxiliary was Bishop Cordileone all in all he is not very active, he did giver permission to raise the FSSP Church here in a diocese and for that I thankful, but other than that he is pretty laid back, I think the Bishop knows his short comings and they are many.
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(10-26-2010, 04:16 PM)Baskerville Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 02:33 PM)CollegeCatholic Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 11:31 AM)CrusaderKing Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 10:06 AM)damooster Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 01:46 AM)HammerOfHeretics Wrote: I have great respect for my archbishop, Tim Dolan. I think he has done a good job for the archdiocese of new York so far, especially after cardinal Egan.

I find Archbishop Dolan to be a bit liberal when he celebrates Mass. I've listened to him on XM radio and he seems to treat Mass as a big social; he introduces all visiting clergy at length and you can hear him greeting people during the Processional and Recessional. Oh, and remember that CNN piece that showed him cheering for the LGBT group at that parish?

I will give Archbishop Dolan some credit; I have enjoyed some of the homilies I've heard when I turn on the Catholic Channel (although that's not often). 

Dolan is an improvement over Egan, but I agree with your assessment here. He has taken on the NY Times for their incessant anti-Catholicism, cultivated a better relationship with his priests, seems to be a "Hail fellow, well met" type of guy who genuinely has enthusiasm in being Archbishop of NY. I do know he seemed to be friendlier to the TLM when he was in Milwaukee than Egan ever was either in NY or Bridgeport. My hope is that he'll let a Latin Mass Fraternity set up shop in the Archdiocese, which his predecessor would never do.

In addition to what you mentioned, some of the things I hold against him are:

1) When he said Mass in Milwaukee that time wearing that Green Bay Packer cheesehead. Granted, it didn't happen in NY, but still.
2) Refusing to enforce Canon 915 and allow pro abortion politicians to receive Holy Communion.

Other than that, I have no complaints about him. 

Re:  1)  He was giving a homily at his first Mass in the archdiocese, as the new archbishop, and donned the cheesehead for part of the homily.  This was, also, I think at the Milwaukee summer festival "Irish Fest."

He did NOT wear the cheesehead during Mass.

Still it begs the question would a Bishop pre VII dance around with a rediculous Cheese head hat? Kinda shits on the dignity of his office.

Whoa now, the cheesehead is not ridiculous. 

:)  :P
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(10-26-2010, 08:45 PM)The Catholic Thinker Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 01:46 AM)HammerOfHeretics Wrote: I have great respect for my archbishop, Tim Dolan. I think he has done a good job for the archdiocese of new York so far, especially after cardinal Egan.

People in Milwaukee tell you that he did very, very little (possibly nothing) to unseat the entrenched unsavory element here.  'Don't rock the boat' seemed to be the motto.

I would strongly disagree.  He may not have been doing major power shuffle moves, but then again, how could he?  His diocese was run for 25 years by a nutjob.  Nearly every major parish was/is controlled by liberals in some fashion, and the same goes for the chancery. 

He did help the seminary a LOT, and helped to increase vocations.  He did do some things right, and got things pushed along in some respects.

Also, I think everyone knew Abp. Dolan was due for elevation to a red-hat-See, and he did too.  So, there wouldn't be much to do in terms of large movements.  Don't majorly rock the boat, but get things set up so a successor can really change things up.

My 2 cents.
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(10-26-2010, 11:11 PM)CollegeCatholic Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 08:45 PM)The Catholic Thinker Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 01:46 AM)HammerOfHeretics Wrote: I have great respect for my archbishop, Tim Dolan. I think he has done a good job for the archdiocese of new York so far, especially after cardinal Egan.

People in Milwaukee tell you that he did very, very little (possibly nothing) to unseat the entrenched unsavory element here.  'Don't rock the boat' seemed to be the motto.

I would strongly disagree.  He may not have been doing major power shuffle moves, but then again, how could he?  His diocese was run for 25 years by a nutjob.  Nearly every major parish was/is controlled by liberals in some fashion, and the same goes for the chancery. 

He did help the seminary a LOT, and helped to increase vocations.  He did do some things right, and got things pushed along in some respects.

Also, I think everyone knew Abp. Dolan was due for elevation to a red-hat-See, and he did too.  So, there wouldn't be much to do in terms of large movements.  Don't majorly rock the boat, but get things set up so a successor can really change things up.

My 2 cents.

It's just that I have friends that complained about specific things - serious things - and nothing at all was done about them.  At least nothing public about things that required public response.  Things like churches with no kneelers.  And that brazen heretic Gumbleton preaching at a church in Door County while the diocese was under Milwaukee control.  Such things in my mind are very difficult to rationalize.

I could say more but I won't.  I don't particularly feel good about criticizing a churchman (especially a bishop) in public (unlike some here who I think need a daily fix of it).  Perhaps there is something that, somehow, I am missing.  But it is a fact that he did not live up to expectations for many.

I also don't see what him being inline for the cardinaliate has to do with it.  Other than that, according to some, that's exactly why he kept his head down.  Then again, look at Burke.
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(10-26-2010, 11:26 PM)The Catholic Thinker Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 11:11 PM)CollegeCatholic Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 08:45 PM)The Catholic Thinker Wrote:
(10-26-2010, 01:46 AM)HammerOfHeretics Wrote: I have great respect for my archbishop, Tim Dolan. I think he has done a good job for the archdiocese of new York so far, especially after cardinal Egan.

People in Milwaukee tell you that he did very, very little (possibly nothing) to unseat the entrenched unsavory element here.  'Don't rock the boat' seemed to be the motto.

I would strongly disagree.  He may not have been doing major power shuffle moves, but then again, how could he?  His diocese was run for 25 years by a nutjob.  Nearly every major parish was/is controlled by liberals in some fashion, and the same goes for the chancery. 

He did help the seminary a LOT, and helped to increase vocations.  He did do some things right, and got things pushed along in some respects.

Also, I think everyone knew Abp. Dolan was due for elevation to a red-hat-See, and he did too.  So, there wouldn't be much to do in terms of large movements.  Don't majorly rock the boat, but get things set up so a successor can really change things up.

My 2 cents.

It's just that I have friends that complained about specific things - serious things - and nothing at all was done about them.  At least nothing public about things that required public response.  Things like churches with no kneelers.  And that brazen heretic Gumbleton preaching at a church in Door County while the diocese was under Milwaukee control.  Such things in my mind are very difficult to rationalize.

I could say more but I won't.  I don't particularly feel good about criticizing a churchman (especially a bishop) in public (unlike some here who I think need a daily fix of it).  Perhaps there is something that, somehow, I am missing.  But it is a fact that he did not live up to expectations for many.

I also don't see what him being inline for the cardinaliate has to do with it.  Other than that, according to some, that's exactly why he kept his head down.  Then again, look at Burke.

Perhaps?...  i dunno?
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Archbishop Dolan sounds similar to the former Archbishop of St . Paul/Minneapolis, Harry Flynn.  Our diocese was run from 1975-1995 by Archbishop John Roach, who was basically a Midwest version of Cardinal Mahoney.  When Archbishop Flynn came in, he quietly reformed the seminary and put more solid priests in place in key parishes.  He wasn't nearly as vocal in criticizing the liberal element among the clergy as he could have been, but the Archdiocese got a lot better in his 12 years as Archbishop.
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(10-27-2010, 05:22 PM)ies0716 Wrote: Archbishop Dolan sounds similar to the former Archbishop of St . Paul/Minneapolis, Harry Flynn.  Our diocese was run from 1975-1995 by Archbishop John Roach, who was basically a Midwest version of Cardinal Mahoney.  When Archbishop Flynn came in, he quietly reformed the seminary and put more solid priests in place in key parishes.  He wasn't nearly as vocal in criticizing the liberal element among the clergy as he could have been, but the Archdiocese got a lot better in his 12 years as Archbishop.

Not one liberal priest was replaced in Milwaukee that I know of.  And I know of many who were not.  We have an _organization_ here, Milwaukee Area Priests Association, that was formed to, in essentially their own words, band together to fight the new archbishop (Dolan) because he was too loyal to "Rome".  It was founded by the guy who ran the seminary when it was known as a gay bathhouse.  It still exists, and I think 20% or so of the priests in the area belong.

I'd like to pass on something about the archbishop.  In 2005 or so, just after he took over, I went to a rosary & Mass at the Carmelite motherhouse.  We came in a back way and passed the archbishop who was leading the rosary but for some reason was out in the hall.  No one could see him.  His eyes were closed and as we passed him silently he had such an intense look of joy and reverence on his face.  I thought "that is a holy man".
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