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A New Inquisition?
(10-28-2010, 09:10 AM)JayneK Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:05 AM)Servus_Maria Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 08:43 AM)JayneK Wrote: I see things here which leave me feeling embarrassed and disgusted and questioning being a trad or even a Catholic.  The feeling doesn't last but I experience that initial sense of revulsion.

I've never experienced not wanting to be a catholic, per se. I've definitely experienced disgust at the thought of being in the same Church as certain types of people.

Yes.  That is a good way to express it.

I'd say that is an awful way to express it.

The Church is for all who believe in Christ, no matter how disgusting we may think they are. The only disgust we should feel is for immorality and heresy being able to grow unchecked.
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(10-28-2010, 09:41 AM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:10 AM)JayneK Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:05 AM)Servus_Maria Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 08:43 AM)JayneK Wrote: I see things here which leave me feeling embarrassed and disgusted and questioning being a trad or even a Catholic.  The feeling doesn't last but I experience that initial sense of revulsion.

I've never experienced not wanting to be a catholic, per se. I've definitely experienced disgust at the thought of being in the same Church as certain types of people.

Yes.  That is a good way to express it.

I'd say that is an awful way to express it.

The Church is for all who believe in Christ, no matter how disgusting we may think they are.

I'm not saying that it's good that I feel this way or that I ought to.  But that is how I feel.
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Then it IS an internal problem...you can work it out Jayne.  You are in control.
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(10-28-2010, 09:43 AM)JayneK Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:41 AM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:10 AM)JayneK Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:05 AM)Servus_Maria Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 08:43 AM)JayneK Wrote: I see things here which leave me feeling embarrassed and disgusted and questioning being a trad or even a Catholic.  The feeling doesn't last but I experience that initial sense of revulsion.

I've never experienced not wanting to be a catholic, per se. I've definitely experienced disgust at the thought of being in the same Church as certain types of people.

Yes.  That is a good way to express it.

I'd say that is an awful way to express it.

The Church is for all who believe in Christ, no matter how disgusting we may think they are.

I'm not saying that it's good that I feel this way or that I ought to.  But that is how I feel.

You should know better by now.

Writing those things as if they were somehow true or justified passes off as sanctimoniousness. "Oh, so and so makes me embarassed and disgusted and questioning being a Catholic", "Oh, I feel disgusted at the thought of being in the same Church as so and so", etc. You could just as well say: "God, I thank you, that I am not like these people."

Do you realize how incredibly pretentious this sounds? Remember the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector (Lk 18:9-14).
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(10-28-2010, 09:56 AM)Vetus Ordo Wrote: You should know better by now.

Writing those things as if they were somehow true or justified passes off as sanctimoniousness. "Oh, so and so makes me embarassed and disgusted and questioning being a Catholic", "Oh, I feel disgusted at the thought of being in the same Church as so and so", etc. You could just as well say: "God, I thank you, that I am not like these people."

Do you realize how incredibly pretentious this sounds? Remember the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector (Lk 18:9-14).

You are right.  I deserve your rebuke.  Nevertheless, since I feel such things myself, I can sympathize with Credo.
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(10-28-2010, 09:56 AM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:43 AM)JayneK Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:41 AM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:10 AM)JayneK Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 09:05 AM)Servus_Maria Wrote:
(10-28-2010, 08:43 AM)JayneK Wrote: I see things here which leave me feeling embarrassed and disgusted and questioning being a trad or even a Catholic.  The feeling doesn't last but I experience that initial sense of revulsion.

I've never experienced not wanting to be a catholic, per se. I've definitely experienced disgust at the thought of being in the same Church as certain types of people.

Yes.  That is a good way to express it.

I'd say that is an awful way to express it.

The Church is for all who believe in Christ, no matter how disgusting we may think they are.

I'm not saying that it's good that I feel this way or that I ought to.  But that is how I feel.

You should know better by now.

Writing those things as if they were somehow true or justified passes off as sanctimoniousness. "Oh, so and so makes me embarassed and disgusted and questioning being a Catholic", "Oh, I feel disgusted at the thought of being in the same Church as so and so", etc. You could just as well say: "God, I thank you, that I am not like these people."

Do you realize how incredibly pretentious this sounds? Remember the parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector (Lk 18:9-14).

Interesting points, Vetus! I think in some sense, Traditionalism encourages a stronger sense of being bound with the true church. By contrast, post-V2 the church has sometimes become obsessed with becoming unoffensive to so many groups that it opens the door to heresy and immorality.
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