Has anyone done a study of Paul VI and JPII?
(11-03-2010, 10:51 PM)Robert De Brus Wrote:
(11-03-2010, 10:03 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote:
(11-03-2010, 09:52 PM)Jitpring Wrote: How are we to react when JPII is canonized? The implications of this will be troubling.

There are several cop-outs:

1) The canonization is infallible insofar as it declares that the soul of Karol Wojtyła is in Heaven;
2) Due to the laxity of the current process of canonization, infallibility is no longer guaranteed;
3) Some acts of the post-conciliar hierarchy, such as canonizations, will one day be considered illegitimate by the Church due to their manifest heresy;
4) The Catholic Church as we know it is no longer the Catholic Church. However, that leads us to sedevacantism and this a prohibited topic of discussion.

The best solution seems to be number 2. However, let's hope God doesn't make us go throught that.

But are there not already a number of troubling saints?  Should we then apply the same rules to them? 

An SSPX priest wrote an article (in French) on the subject in 2008: Une Attitude de Prudence, par M. l‘abbé Philippe Toulza, Fideliter No 182, mars-avril 2008. I have the PDF if anyone who reads French would like to take a look at it (it was reprinted in last month's SSPX Montreal monthly bulletin). I don't think it's been translated yet.

They admit that canonizations are infallible. The only loophole would seem to be impaired intention to canonization due to the chaos post-V2 but this would be extremely difficult to establish. As a matter of prudence, they don't accept canonizations post-V2 but admit that the matter requires further theological study.

However, the SSPX Montreal chapel does have an icon of Saint Brother André. SSPX Montreal is fully in favour of his canonization, but admits there is general doubt on the multitude of canonizations under JP2. They don't want to start picking and choosing whether each canonizations was valid or not. A real mess.

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Re: Has anyone done a study of Paul VI and JPII? - by Bakuryokuso - 11-03-2010, 11:14 PM

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