Has anyone done a study of Paul VI and JPII?
(11-06-2010, 10:06 PM)Pax et Bonum Wrote:
(11-06-2010, 09:42 PM)Baskerville Wrote:
(11-06-2010, 09:15 PM)Pax et Bonum Wrote:
(11-06-2010, 07:58 PM)Baskerville Wrote: In my opinion and this is just me being an armchair theologian. JPII the terrible was worse. Paul VI brought in the invalid proti Mass and let traditional devotion wither but JPII could have stopped it but prefered to bask in his rock star Pope status.

Why do you believe the Novus Ordo is invalid? I mean, the whole formation of the new Mass is sketchy, but what about it makes it invalid, in your opinion?

The fact that it was put together by an Archbishop and 6 Protestants with the sole purpose of watering it down to be more acceptable to Protestants. But my biggest beef with it is that there is no explicit offertory and the words of Christ were changed from for many to for all.
Yes, that's true...not to mention, Cardinal Bugnini is believed to have been a Freemason.

The 2011 Missal is changing it back to 'many'. Do you believe that it will be valid then?

It will be a step in the right direction. If they do that and have the traditional offertory and get rid of the 2nd 3rd 4th Eucharistic prayers and require Priests to use the 1st which is the watered down canon I could then accept it. For me it comes down mostly to the absence of an offertory that was the first things the Proti Reformers wanted to get rid of.

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Re: Has anyone done a study of Paul VI and JPII? - by Baskerville - 11-06-2010, 10:52 PM

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