"revision" of the Good Friday prayer
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They strike again...


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#2
Here is a note about this news in English:

http://www.muslimnews.co.uk/news/news.php?article=19039

The Vatican: Jews want 'conversion' call removed from Catholic prayer

10-11-2010

Vatican City, (Ansa): The thorny question of a call to conversion in a Roman Catholic prayer re-emerged Tuesday when the head of Italy's Jewish community reiterated a request to remove it as a goodwill gesture for interfaith dialogue.

Renzo Gattegna said getting rid of the optional piece of a Good Friday prayer would be "a useful, necessary and certainly appreciated gesture".

Writing in Vatican daily L'Osservatore Romano, Gattegna said the move "would be an open declaration of renunciation on the part of the Church of any intention of converting Jews".

The issue last hit the news in April 2008 when the Vatican made a fresh effort to justify it by saying that the conversion plea was only contained in a Latin prayer used by a minority of Catholics, which Pope Benedict XVI 're-authorised' in 2007 to the dismay of the world's Jews.

In 2008, the Rome Jewish community said an attempt to reassure Jews had essentially dodged the key point in the prayer which, though watered down, still called for conversion, Rome's Chief Rabbi Riccardo Di Segni said.

''It's a very nice declaration which renews feelings of regard and friendship but changes nothing on the substance of the question,'' Di Segni said at the time.

On Tuesday, Gattegna said it would help "initiatives aimed at mutual understanding and friendship" if the Vatican made it clear that it had no intention of converting Jews.

Relations between Catholics and Jews have seesawed in recent years and Benedict's December elevation of controversial wartime pope Pius XII to the status of "venerable'", two steps away from sainthood, has not helped matters, observers say.

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Holy Mother Church is compelled to follow her Master and Head (Mark 16:15 - "Go ye into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature").

Interfaith dialogue must have, as its primary and ultimate purpose, the aim of converting non-Catholics to the Catholic Faith for their salvation. It's just that simple.  ;)

Anything contrary to the aim of conversion is actually disobedience to Christ and a failure of our obligation to love the Jews (which entails loving them for the sake of God and desiring their salvation).
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The Pope should make it a mandatory prayer for every day in every rite of the Church.  And I would even support adding a conversion prayer for jews as an introductory prayer for the Rosary.
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(11-10-2010, 12:43 PM)Gerard Wrote: The Pope should make it a mandatory prayer for every day in every rite of the Church.  And I would even support adding a conversion prayer for jews as an introductory prayer for the Rosary.

Shouldn't it be for the whole world's conversion, not just the Jews?
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3 Sanctus, have you missed Good Friday recently there are prayers for the conversion of each heretical group, Heretics, Schismatics, Jews, Muslims all get their prayer, only the Jews complain.
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The new Publisher pf the Vatican Newspaper is no friend of the Church, he's publishing lots of crap now he's printing articles by the church's enemies, he needs to be removed.
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#8
Bring back the Inquisition and MAKE them convert like Ferdinand and Isabella. Lets hope the Pope doesn't cave to the perfidious sons of Satan who murdered their messiah.
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(11-10-2010, 02:37 PM)salus Wrote: 3 Sanctus, have you missed Good Friday recently there are prayers for the conversion of each heretical group, Heretics, Schismatics, Jews, Muslims all get their prayer, only the Jews complain.

I dont know where 3 sanctus attends Mass but at the NO I used to go to all prayers for conversion of people were dropped and instead PC causes were inserted.
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(11-10-2010, 12:43 PM)Gerard Wrote: The Pope should make it a mandatory prayer for every day in every rite of the Church.  And I would even support adding a conversion prayer for jews as an introductory prayer for the Rosary.
Eh, doing the will of God is the goal here, not making Jews think that we're just fixated on them...that is, any more than they seem to already think that.  They are fixated on themselves and how they are perceived by everybody else.  Catholicism is about doing the will of God rather than appeasing or antagonizing other people for the sake of doing so.  That's what protestantism is for.
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