Pope does not object to communion in the hand
#21
The Pope is not about to rescind the indult anytime soon.  That doesn't make him a bad pope, in fact, he is probably doing his best to lead the Church.  Can his critics say the same?  What have you all done recently to strengthen the Church?  Spending time in a chatroom might pump up your worldly pride but it probably isn't getting souls to Heaven - actually it may be doing the opposite by fueling the modernists' portrait of traditionals.  We are suppose to pray for the pope, not take cheap chatroom shots at him. 
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#22
(11-22-2010, 11:42 AM)Ockham Wrote: The Pope is not about to rescind the indult anytime soon. That doesn't make him a bad pope, in fact, he is probably doing his best to lead the Church(...)

You haven't answered this:

(11-22-2010, 11:17 AM)Vetus Ordo Wrote: Is giving communion to non-catholics also part of the "brick by brick" rebuilding strategy?
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#23
What's the story with Pope Benedict giving Communion to non-Catholics?  I must have missed the memo on that one.
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#24
TIA Wrote:[Image: 118_RatzingerSchutz04.jpg]

In its September 2, 2005 issue, The Tidings, the weekly paper of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, reproduced this photo in black-and-white, and printed the following caption:

"SHARED COMMUNION - Brother Roger Schutz, a minister of the Swiss Reformed Church and founder of the Taize community, receives Communion from Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger at Pope John Paul II's funeral in St. Peter's Square at the Vatican April 8. Unnamed Vatican officials said that Brother Roger's reception of Communion was not foreseen and was the result of Brother Roger being seated in a group receiving Communion from Cardinal Ratzinger."

Here is evidence that Cardinal Ratzinger judges a Protestant minister worthy of receiving the Holy Eucharist.

There are several doctrinal presuppositions implicit in this act:

1) the Protestant does not need to convert;
2) he does not need to confess before receiving Communion;
3) he lives in perpetual state of grace, etc.

Such theses are clearly against Catholic doctrine. This recent picture may be a good reminder for those "conservatives" who pretend that everything that Joseph Ratzinger did or does is orthodox and wonderful. Because of this irrational attitude toward Benedict XVI, such syncophants are already being called the "papaboys" by some Italian press organs. It is also an interesting document for traditionalists to keep in mind when they expect that this Pope will promote a sincere return to Catholic tradition in the Liturgy. It seems that the sincerity of Cardinal Ratzinger follows the lines of the reforms of Vatican II, as seen in the photo.
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#25
Wow!  The smoking gun!  Of course this means Pope Benedict XVI isn't the real pope.  We should hurry to get Bishop Williamson into Peter's Chair asap and shut down all Novus Ordo parishes.
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#26
(11-22-2010, 12:33 PM)Ockham Wrote: Wow!  The smoking gun!  Of course this means Pope Benedict XVI isn't the real pope.  We should hurry to get Bishop Williamson into Peter's Chair asap and shut down all Novus Ordo parishes.

Utter evasion.

No-one's arguing that Benedict is not the pope. The point you so painstakingly missed is that he has no problem giving communion to non-catholics.
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#27
Is there evidence that the Pope knew who this person was, and that he wasn't Catholic?
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(11-22-2010, 12:51 PM)ies0716 Wrote: Is there evidence that the Pope knew who this person was, and that he wasn't Catholic?

It's 'Prior' Roger Schutz, founder of the prot monastery at Taize, a well known figure. He received the Body and Blood of our Lord to his own damnation regularly. You can check his article at Wikipedia with a link to an article by Sandro Magister at Chiesa, discussing it.
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#29
(11-22-2010, 12:59 PM)jovan66102 Wrote:
(11-22-2010, 12:51 PM)ies0716 Wrote: Is there evidence that the Pope knew who this person was, and that he wasn't Catholic?

It's 'Prior' Roger Schutz, founder of the prot monastery at Taize, a well known figure. He received the Body and Blood of our Lord to his own damnation regularly. You can check his article at Wikipedia with a link to an article by Sandro Magister at Chiesa, discussing it.

Some excerpts from Wikipedia:

Quote:From a Protestant background, Brother Roger undertook a step that was without precedent since the Reformation: entering progressively into a full communion with the faith of the Catholic Church without a “conversion” that would imply a break with his origins. In 1980, during a European Meeting in Rome, he said in Saint Peter’s Basilica in the presence of Pope John Paul II: “I have found my own identity as a Christian by reconciling within myself the faith of my origins with the mystery of the Catholic faith, without breaking fellowship with anyone.”

He took Catholic sacrament of the Eucharist every morning at the Catholic Mass in Taizé, and he received the sacrament from both the current and former Pope, seemingly in contravention of canonical prohibitions on administering the sacrament to those not in full communion with the Roman Catholic Church. According to Cardinal Walter Kasper this was accomplished as though there was a tacit understanding between Brother Roger and the Catholic Church "crossing certain confessional" and canonical barriers through what brother Roger called a gradual enrichment of his faith with the foundations of the Catholic Church including "the ministry of unity exercised by the bishop of Rome."

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In a highly unusual move, the funeral of this (presumably still) Protestant monk was presided over by a Catholic cardinal. Walter Kasper, the president of the Vatican's Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity, who celebrated the Mass with four priest-brothers of Taizé concelebrating, said in a homily, "Yes, the springtime of ecumenism has flowered on the hill of Taizé." In reference to Brother Roger's concern for social justice, Cardinal Kasper said "Every form of injustice or neglect made him very sad". Br. Roger's successor, Br. Alois prayed for forgiveness: "With Christ on the cross we say to you, Father, forgive her, she does not know what she did."

The link to Sando Magister's article that has the complete interview with Card. Kasper should suffice to dispel any doubts regarding this matter.
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(11-22-2010, 01:05 PM)Vetus Ordo Wrote: Some excerpts from Wikipedia:

Thanks, Vetus. I'm at a public library computer that doesn't allow copy and paste! :)
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